Walking in the Spirit presents another reality one which is truly a life apart, a place where time and material things are set aside towards a wonderful connection, no vast systems required, a life given to Love,faith, and hope defined of coarse in the will and mind of Christ not what ever feels good, those trend setters of the time.
This was added to take that extra peak at self evaluation that's sets confusion apart from wisdom from another.Getting back ,we have long ways to go.
“A generation of Christians reared among push buttons and automatic machines is impatient of slower and less direct methods of reaching their goals. We have been trying to apply machine-age methods to our relations with God. We read our chapter, have our short devotions, and rush away, hoping to make up for our deep inward bankruptcy by attending another gospel meeting or listening to another thrilling story told by a religious adventurer lately returned from afar. The tragic results of this spirit are all about us. Shallow lives, hollow religious philosophies, the preponderance of the element of fun in gospel meetings, the glorification of men, trust in religious externalities, quasi-religious fellowships, salesmanship methods, the mistaking of dynamic personality for the power of the Spirit; these and such as these are the symptoms of an evil disease, a deep and serious malady of the soul.”
Getting back to the Seer that sees through is much more than the artifice of mere recitation, tradition, An alternative is to be full and free. How we build series by Narrowway.
Narroway
Saturday, January 7, 2012
Friday, January 6, 2012
Spirit led
Truth consists not merely in correct doctrine but in correct doctrine to which is added the inward enlightenment of the Holy Spirit...John the Baptist said, "A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven" (John 3:27). He was not referring to men's gifts. He was speaking of spiritual truth.
Spirit led, means Spirit given!
Wednesday, January 4, 2012
Deep inside things hurt.
“For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake." Philippians 1:29
In the 11 years out in street ministry, I seen a lot of rough stuff and hurts and drug addiction, loneliness, hopelessness, and those corrupt, it;s been something, yes my life at risk? perhaps, The Lord Jesus died for me and my sin he took it all, no not perfect yet someday with him,only in him, I had to learn to die to myself out there,
I love the people, pray for their suffering and hope for their lives to change,that comes with it all MS.
There is nothing easy in the late hours far from home helping to trying to stop something or simply making it through.
The consequences of sin come around and in times no one would have thought as escapee, God catches any in the craftiness of their sin, theft, drug,addiction, or hate, crime, in so many ways, it all comes back.
things hurt at times, hard and joy comes as well in the face of the unpredictable events and no place to run to, it;s there real faith grows when we have reached outside of our own strength and ideas and to give or rescue others in those dark places.
The system will never fix it by legislation or prisons many are deeply abused in jails and lead to even greater issues later on. I see it, The core stuff is always the inner man that must change.
Not easy to step into a dark water and never look back and wait to see what the impossible brings. Taking the time to love those who have no hope and those who think they got it all, and having joy and experience with God is out side any book or idea it;s personal.
Jesus said to love one another as I have loved you? love comes with truth phil1;9
and if we love, as he has us, we do not seek to harm our neighbors, where ever they are..
Take care!
"read the word it;s good for the soul...
Monday, January 2, 2012
Just what was the real deal like?
Thanks for the article, no doubt we see the warnings from other writers as well to help that part of us that needs references due to the lack of real discernment which is function of the Holy Spirit in the body not just human smarts. It;s a noble article and well spoken truths in a time where many are seeking to what is the truth in all this we do.
The article section is small part of the whole.
The article section is small part of the whole.
Ephesians 4:15-16, clearly identifies the purpose of our assembling, "speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head — Christ — from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love." Nothing like our church today.
We all were a part of an assembly of people who had in common their commitment to Jesus and to each other. Their coming together involved exhortation and fellowship with one another They were not an audience for a single speaker, but a living body much like are human bodies. 1 Corinthians 12:18-1924,26, "But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased...But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, that there should be no divisions in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it."
We all were a part of an assembly of people who had in common their commitment to Jesus and to each other. Their coming together involved exhortation and fellowship with one another They were not an audience for a single speaker, but a living body much like are human bodies. 1 Corinthians 12:18-1924,26, "But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased...But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, that there should be no divisions in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it."
The word church is responsible for destroying all the above and the kingdom of God as it is in heaven. How do we feel when we repeat what we call the Lord's prayer? "Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." All that is representative of church is against all that is representative of the kingdom of heaven.
William Tyndale, who in the 16th century translated our first English Bible, translated "ekklesia" as “congregation,” moving the focus from a building to the people. He wanted to rid the Bible of the ecclesiastical words set in by a powerful clergy system linked to the state. Tyndale used the word “church” one time and that was to describe a pagan temple (Acts 19:37 "For ye have brought hyther these [Paul and company] me which are nether robbers of churches [pagan house of worship] nor yet despisers of youre goddes). His translation brought the down the wrath of the Clergy and it cost him his life. For his translation he was burned at the stake.
This is true even to this day; the most hated people are those who challenge our religious system...and the challenge is just beginning.
This is true even to this day; the most hated people are those who challenge our religious system...and the challenge is just beginning.
Many in the clergy derive their prestige and livelihood from a clergy system with its corporate headquarters in a building. A change back to the faith that was once given to the saints rings fear to the order of our institutional church system. Such words as: “bishop,” “office of.” “pastor,” “deacon,” etc., have been improperly translated to build an empire around men and denominational divisions.
In love it;s time, we're thank for for your letter from the Chinese response to our dilemma, here , My personal words in Spirit of love I would suggest other wise, it;s what we;re doing here in the face of all these facts the reason to remain in the past will only add to the false building part.
I am pleased to see change on the way and it needs to be so to give the glory back to the lord and take it from men. Thanks for great article and we hope many in the ekklesia will gather and meet and speak as they are led , the desire to hear how God is working in others lives is vital and part of the growth aspect so deeply needed as is real faith.Love to them.
We are praying for the west great changes can only be done buy our lord as they are in china, withal people willing hear, alternative to John 11;48 in which our place superseded the presence of God than as Jesus, and the Spirit today, In order to sustain human tradition.
Please keep in mind that the scriptures the original letters were written to everyday people, and there was no time to need Plato to figure it out for them,, so we could spin it all sorts of ways. With connection, which is denied in our age by misrepresentation the lack of personal research to really discover those truths for oneself as to real truths..
"The scriptures imply to labor in study deeply digging seeking as for treasure", effort to know the personage of God by surrender and listening, as to what our roles are one to the lord for most and to one another without all the added stuff. That is discernment the function of the Spirit not man's wisdom. Thanks, love to all.. Pride is deadly...
Monday, December 19, 2011
A real faith
The institutional Church, at large, has been fearful that an emphasis on the subjective relationship of Christ and the Christian would impinge upon the basic foundations of Christian thought. But even more than this concern for ideological preservation has been their concern for ecclesiastical preservation. The tendencies to collectivization and objectification in the Western Church have allowed the ecclesiastical authorities to exercise power, maintain control, and "keep a handle on" the Christian enterprise.
To allow the grace of God to function freely and subjectively in Christian individuals has been eschewed as a "risky business," allowing for too much individualism, too much subjectivism, and too much personal freedom.
The "good news" of the Christian gospel is that God in Christ is reinvested and restored in, as, and through the receptive Christian individual. The objective of the gospel is not to formulate an orthodox belief-system, nor to construct and maintain an ecclesiastical organization. The Spirit of Christ is free to express the character of Christ in novel and spontaneous ways in each Christian, and that unto the glory of God. The Holy Spirit must not be imprisoned in church structures, encased in book-interpretations, or relegated only to a judicial courtroom in the heavens. The Spirit of the living Christ is present in the Christian, existing as the identity of the Christian, and functioning to express Himself through the Christian. The documentation of these realities is the objective of this article.
This classic example of our passion for the freedom of the Spirit in wisdom. The massive void which exists limiting and regulating the powerful work of God the Spirit, in an ongoing manner in the life of believer and reducing it; has led short falls and unanswered crooss over fromthe natural to the supernatural which Christ lived out and he stated that we to would be empowered by the Spirit often has becme little more than a series of how to books and trend following instead. Thanks to and for those fine truths. I agree fully , regaining the way is what we have done and set out to do ask others it;s time to do so.
Getting back to him,
Despite the attempts of Protestantism to objectify the benefits of Christ's work in an almost paranoid aversion to anything other than "alien righteousness," there have been evangelical Christians throughout the ages who have understood that the Person and work of Jesus Christ must not be only extrinsically applied, but that the living Person and activity of Christ indwells the spirit of the Christian. This fundamental reality of Christ's actual and spiritual presence within the Christian individual is so well-attested by direct New Testament references that those who "search the Scriptures" and are receptive to spiritual reality invariably recognize the indwelling presence of the living Christ.
Jesus Himself explained that He would give another Helper, the Spirit of truth, and His disciples would know that they were in Him, and He was in them (John 14:20). In His prayer for unity Jesus explained that He would be in His followers as God the Father was in Him, the Son (John 17:23).Amen!
D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones wrote: "Justification makes no actual change in us; it is a declaration of God concerning us."1 Louis Berkhof explained that both Luther and Calvin describe justification "as a forensic act which does not change the inner life of man but only the judicial relationship in which he stands to God."2 Anglo-Catholic, E. L. Mascall, notes that "justification has been envisaged as simply an act of God by which man is accounted righteous without any ontological change being made in him."3 Louis Bouyer, a French Reformed theologian who became Roman Catholic, lamented, "It was apparently impossible for Protestant theology to agree that God could put something in man that became in fact his own, and that at the same time the gift remained the possession of the Giver. That amounts to saying that there can be no real relation between God and man."4 These quotations serve to verify that the over-objectification of Protestant theology in general has effectively deterred teaching of the personal and subjective action of Christ in the Christian individual.
How than should we think? Ever wonder what rela faith looked like?
"Christ as us" is another way of referring to the Christian's "union with Christ" which has been a part of Christian understanding from the beginning of the Church. Christian thinkers have often struggled, however, to explain and articulate what Paul meant by his statement that "the one being joined to the Lord is one spirit (with Him)" (I Cor. 6:17). Likewise, they have shied away from Peter's assertion that Christians "have become partakers of divine nature" (II Peter 1:4). Clinging to the Greek humanistic idea of an inherent "human nature," Christians have often been blinded to the Scriptural explanation that "we were by nature (Greek phusis) children of wrath" (Eph. 2:3) in our unregenerate spiritual condition, when "the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that works in the sons of disobedience" (Eph. 2:2) was indwelling and operative in us, but we are now "partakers of the divine nature (phusis)" (II Pet. 1:4), by the presence and function of "the Spirit of Christ" (Rom. 8:9) within the spirit of the Christian (cf. Rom. 8:16). Being "partakers (koinonoi) of the divine nature" (II Pet. 1:4) and "partakers (metachoi) of Christ" (Heb. 3:14) implies that Christians are participants in Christ, sharing in the commonality of His nature and identity in spiritual union with Him. This participatory fellowship (koinonia) with the living Lord Jesus (I Cor. 1:9), with God the Father (I John 1:3,6), and with the Holy Spirit (Phil. 2:1) indicates a spiritual union with the Triune Godhead.
Eastern Orthodox theologians are careful to explain, though, that neither the early church fathers nor they are advocating that the Christian becomes God. They qualify "deification" by indicating that it is participation in the "energies" of God's presence and Being, rather than becoming the "essence" of the Being of God. Though they emphasize the intimacy of the union of the Christian with the "divine nature," they maintain at the same time that the creature always remains essentially distinct from God. They maintain a careful balance of union and distinction.
Having noted how the character of Christ is expressed in Christian behavior by "the fruit of the Spirit" (Gal. 5:22,23), we now note that the ministry of Christ is performed through us by the "gifts of the Spirit" (cf. Rom. 12; I Cor. 12; Eph. 4:8-16). The "fruit of the Spirit" has to do with the functional expression of the character of Christ, while the "gifts of the Spirit" have to do with the ministry of Christ to others in the context of the Body of Christ. It is most lamentable that in many portions of the Church today the "gifts of the Spirit" are regarded as marks of spirituality or trophies of spiritual possession, rather than as the means of Christ's ministry through Christians. The "gifts of the Spirit" should not be viewed as separated or detached entities or abilities, but only as the functional grace-expressions by which Christ ministers through any Christian in a given situation of another's need. (cf. Fowler, Charismata: the so-called "Spiritual Gifts")
No greater joy than stepping out of doubt and fear when it comes to be included in the beloved. Joy!
To allow the grace of God to function freely and subjectively in Christian individuals has been eschewed as a "risky business," allowing for too much individualism, too much subjectivism, and too much personal freedom.
The "good news" of the Christian gospel is that God in Christ is reinvested and restored in, as, and through the receptive Christian individual. The objective of the gospel is not to formulate an orthodox belief-system, nor to construct and maintain an ecclesiastical organization. The Spirit of Christ is free to express the character of Christ in novel and spontaneous ways in each Christian, and that unto the glory of God. The Holy Spirit must not be imprisoned in church structures, encased in book-interpretations, or relegated only to a judicial courtroom in the heavens. The Spirit of the living Christ is present in the Christian, existing as the identity of the Christian, and functioning to express Himself through the Christian. The documentation of these realities is the objective of this article.
This classic example of our passion for the freedom of the Spirit in wisdom. The massive void which exists limiting and regulating the powerful work of God the Spirit, in an ongoing manner in the life of believer and reducing it; has led short falls and unanswered crooss over fromthe natural to the supernatural which Christ lived out and he stated that we to would be empowered by the Spirit often has becme little more than a series of how to books and trend following instead. Thanks to and for those fine truths. I agree fully , regaining the way is what we have done and set out to do ask others it;s time to do so.
Getting back to him,
Despite the attempts of Protestantism to objectify the benefits of Christ's work in an almost paranoid aversion to anything other than "alien righteousness," there have been evangelical Christians throughout the ages who have understood that the Person and work of Jesus Christ must not be only extrinsically applied, but that the living Person and activity of Christ indwells the spirit of the Christian. This fundamental reality of Christ's actual and spiritual presence within the Christian individual is so well-attested by direct New Testament references that those who "search the Scriptures" and are receptive to spiritual reality invariably recognize the indwelling presence of the living Christ.
Jesus Himself explained that He would give another Helper, the Spirit of truth, and His disciples would know that they were in Him, and He was in them (John 14:20). In His prayer for unity Jesus explained that He would be in His followers as God the Father was in Him, the Son (John 17:23).Amen!
D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones wrote: "Justification makes no actual change in us; it is a declaration of God concerning us."1 Louis Berkhof explained that both Luther and Calvin describe justification "as a forensic act which does not change the inner life of man but only the judicial relationship in which he stands to God."2 Anglo-Catholic, E. L. Mascall, notes that "justification has been envisaged as simply an act of God by which man is accounted righteous without any ontological change being made in him."3 Louis Bouyer, a French Reformed theologian who became Roman Catholic, lamented, "It was apparently impossible for Protestant theology to agree that God could put something in man that became in fact his own, and that at the same time the gift remained the possession of the Giver. That amounts to saying that there can be no real relation between God and man."4 These quotations serve to verify that the over-objectification of Protestant theology in general has effectively deterred teaching of the personal and subjective action of Christ in the Christian individual.
How than should we think? Ever wonder what rela faith looked like?
"Christ as us" is another way of referring to the Christian's "union with Christ" which has been a part of Christian understanding from the beginning of the Church. Christian thinkers have often struggled, however, to explain and articulate what Paul meant by his statement that "the one being joined to the Lord is one spirit (with Him)" (I Cor. 6:17). Likewise, they have shied away from Peter's assertion that Christians "have become partakers of divine nature" (II Peter 1:4). Clinging to the Greek humanistic idea of an inherent "human nature," Christians have often been blinded to the Scriptural explanation that "we were by nature (Greek phusis) children of wrath" (Eph. 2:3) in our unregenerate spiritual condition, when "the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that works in the sons of disobedience" (Eph. 2:2) was indwelling and operative in us, but we are now "partakers of the divine nature (phusis)" (II Pet. 1:4), by the presence and function of "the Spirit of Christ" (Rom. 8:9) within the spirit of the Christian (cf. Rom. 8:16). Being "partakers (koinonoi) of the divine nature" (II Pet. 1:4) and "partakers (metachoi) of Christ" (Heb. 3:14) implies that Christians are participants in Christ, sharing in the commonality of His nature and identity in spiritual union with Him. This participatory fellowship (koinonia) with the living Lord Jesus (I Cor. 1:9), with God the Father (I John 1:3,6), and with the Holy Spirit (Phil. 2:1) indicates a spiritual union with the Triune Godhead.
Eastern Orthodox theologians are careful to explain, though, that neither the early church fathers nor they are advocating that the Christian becomes God. They qualify "deification" by indicating that it is participation in the "energies" of God's presence and Being, rather than becoming the "essence" of the Being of God. Though they emphasize the intimacy of the union of the Christian with the "divine nature," they maintain at the same time that the creature always remains essentially distinct from God. They maintain a careful balance of union and distinction.
Having noted how the character of Christ is expressed in Christian behavior by "the fruit of the Spirit" (Gal. 5:22,23), we now note that the ministry of Christ is performed through us by the "gifts of the Spirit" (cf. Rom. 12; I Cor. 12; Eph. 4:8-16). The "fruit of the Spirit" has to do with the functional expression of the character of Christ, while the "gifts of the Spirit" have to do with the ministry of Christ to others in the context of the Body of Christ. It is most lamentable that in many portions of the Church today the "gifts of the Spirit" are regarded as marks of spirituality or trophies of spiritual possession, rather than as the means of Christ's ministry through Christians. The "gifts of the Spirit" should not be viewed as separated or detached entities or abilities, but only as the functional grace-expressions by which Christ ministers through any Christian in a given situation of another's need. (cf. Fowler, Charismata: the so-called "Spiritual Gifts")
No greater joy than stepping out of doubt and fear when it comes to be included in the beloved. Joy!
Monday, December 5, 2011
Prayer a contrast to Deception?
We added a trend setting term it;s found function in our culture as man frame practice as people manover and seek to mislead for the sake of gain or painto others., the term carries with it a more clear meaning as to the mechanism found in deception..
Do not lie (5574) (pseudomai from pseudo = to cheat, defraud, falsify) means to communicate what is false, with the evident purpose of misleading. The Greek term and the English equivalent ‘to lie’ involve more than simply telling what is not true, for this could occur without an intent to deceive or mislead. It means means to tell a falsehood, attempt to deceive by lying, to speak falsely or deceitfully. Pseúdomai therefore involves not only the communication of a falsehood but also the intent to deceive.
Wuest says that
These Colossian saints had carried over into the new life, the sin of lying. They should stop lying because they had put off the old man with his practices, that person they were before they were saved, and had put on the new man, that person they were now in Christ Jesus, this new person being constantly renewed with respect to a complete and perfect knowledge which is according to the image of the One who created him."
Prayer, we added the material to reflect the common practice found so often in our culture dealingwith deceptionand the curese that comes with it;s lies. The word prayer onthe other side is also soemthing which must be more than me or give me attitudes.
The real prayer warrior is not self centered, benefits driven life style but one in which offers the sacrifice to God as desiring to be more like him.
Real prayer, earnest prayer, is hard work.
There are so many interruptions ; so many excuses for not persevering suggest themselves to the mind. A believing man is more ready at work than at prayer. Satan has a special ill-will at praying people. Some one has said that Satan's orders are, 'fight not with small or great, but only with the praying people.' If we are to persevere in prayer, it must be prayer in the Spirit, with the atmosphere of the Spirit all around us. Epaphras would never say his prison was a tiresome place. He would say he had plenty of work to do there. Be like him, labouring for God in prayer. If you can't work, if you can't speak, you can pray. But work hard at it like Epaphras, and you will be an immense benefactor to others.
'Of all thy gifts we ask but one,
Give us the constant power to pray.
Indulge us, Lord, in this request,
Thou canst not then deny the rest.'
Give us the constant power to pray.
Indulge us, Lord, in this request,
Thou canst not then deny the rest.'
Lengthen your brief prayers. Take more time, and in this way bring down showers upon your own soul, and upon all around you.
Thursday, December 1, 2011
The Holy Spirit personage.
More than an it, More real than the defeaning denial of his power and presence but present in the conscious mind of those aware of his nearness.
The New Testament often credits the Spirit with speech (Acts 13:2, 4; Rom. 8:26-27; 1 Tim. 4:1; Heb. 3:7; 9:8; Rev. 2:7, 11, 17, 29; 3:6, 13, 22; 22:17), which is a competence of persons. The Spirit speaks not only to man, but also to the glorified Christ (2).
- The Holy Spirit has personal attributes (1).
The New Testament often credits the Spirit with speech (Acts 13:2, 4; Rom. 8:26-27; 1 Tim. 4:1; Heb. 3:7; 9:8; Rev. 2:7, 11, 17, 29; 3:6, 13, 22; 22:17), which is a competence of persons. The Spirit speaks not only to man, but also to the glorified Christ (2).
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