Thanks Kjos.

Role playing is an excellent tool to highlight the hidden influences... or... the hidden commandments of the family...."  [1]  Robert Hawley, Value Exploration Through Role Playing, 1975.
"...ten years hence it should be more accurate to term [the teacher] a 'learning clinician.' This title is intended to convey the idea that schools are becoming 'clinics' whose purpose is to provide individualized psychosocial 'treatment for the student, thus increasing his values both to himself and to society...."
[2] Today's Education, January 1969.

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Cynthia, a concerned mother from the Seattle area, doesn't want her local public school to monitor her family’s values. Naturally, this letter from her son’s 4th grade teacher troubled her:

Dear Parent or Guardian: In the next several weeks, your son/daughter will be participating in the 4th grade unit of instruction on:  Personal Safety (child sexual abuse prevention)  Includes T.A.L.K. Theater for 2nd, 4th, and 8th grades. Please refer to the brochure sent to you in the fall for specific information about the various components of our comprehensive health curriculum. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me.    Sincerely,

No brochure had arrived, so Cynthia asked the teacher for a copy. Since it failed to answer her questions, she called the district Curriculum Director. He explained that a group of trained actors would put on a play "with the kids." The presentation would show different ways to deal with adults who might make them feel uncomfortable by their touching or talking.

Cynthia asked if she could watch this illuminating drama with her child. He said no; other children might not disclose abuse if parents were present.

"Are you basically looking for kids that have been abused?" she asked.

Again the answer was no, but he admitted that students sometimes disclose personal secrets to an adult after a performance. The actual purpose of the theater, however, was to provide children with skills on how to handle confusing and uncomfortable situations. The facilitators or actors -- joined by a professional psychologist -- would be trained to look for kids who were "plugging their ears," "covering their face" or showing other signs of discomfort.

Cynthia didn't ask what the school would do with children who plugged their ears or were suspected to be "at risk." Later she wondered. Would the psychologist counsel or cross-examine the child? Would Child Protection Services be called? Could the child be removed from the family?

Psychological profiling and other intrusive tactics are already devastating families across the country -- for many reasons unrelated to sexual abuse. Children have been removed from loving homes because of anonymous calls, subjective speculation, unfounded accusations and irrational hostility against Christian parents whose uncompromising beliefs and values are considered inappropriate preparation for the pluralistic 21st century community.[3]  After all, home-taught values could block willingness to compromise and conform.[4]

During the last century, progressive leaders have been equating hate with faith -- and Christian child raising with emotional abuse. Consider this 1946 statement by Dr. Brock Chisholm, former head of the World Health Organization. :

"We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents.... The results are frustration, inferiority, neurosis and inability to... make the world fit to live in....

"It has long been generally accepted that parents have a perfect right to impose any points of view, any lies or fears, superstitions, prejudices, hates, or faith on their defenseless children.... [People with] guilts, fears, inferiorities, are certain to project their hates on to others.... Such reaction now becomes a dangerous threat to the whole world...."[5] emphasis added

Two years later, the International Congress on Mental Health met in London where it presented a report titled "Mental Health and World Citizenship." It said,

"…hostility or excessive nationalism may become deeply embedded in the developing personality... often at GREAT HUMAN COST...Change will be strongly resisted unless an attitude of acceptance has first been engendered."[6] 

With help from the media, that "attitude of acceptance" has been engendered. Public schools have become therapy centers, immersing children in outrageous sex-education and multicultural experiences, values clarification and other forms of group therapy designed to

• desensitize children to contrary values
• produce moral confusion or cognitive dissonance
• shift loyalty from family to peer group 
• instill beliefs and behavior fit for the global village.[7]

T.A.L.K. Theater fits right in. "It’s psychological examination on the students without parental consent," says Cynthia. "There is no opt-out form and no written permission slip for parents to sign."

That’s because the educational establishment knows that many parents would oppose their inexcusable tactics – if they discovered them. So they hide them from traditional parents while seeking support from more liberal parents, community groups and agencies. 

For example, the Massachusetts Department of Education website tells us that 

“comprehensive school health education is a vital component of state-wide education reform.... Through collaboration with one another, health educators, academic teachers, and support staff can address a panoply of interrelated health topics....”

Those topics include AIDS education, belief and value systems, child abuse and molestation, discrimination, sexual orientation, family lifestyles and relationships, hate speech, violence prevention and other issues critical to social engineering. Each would be discussed through “innovative, student-centered teaching methods that foster critical thinking skills and responsible decision making” such as peer education, question boxes, role playing, improvisational theater.... [8]

Theater and role-playing are powerful tools for social change. The explicit purpose for bringing these processes into schools was exposed by Fannie and George Shaftel in their 1967 manual for change: Role-Playing for Social Values:

"Once values are out in the open, they can be looked at, considered compared with alternative values. Only then can one criticize, evaluate, deny or confirm and reconstruct one's value system. Children can be helped to... develop an explicit set of values. In group discussions, in role-playing enactments... they can explore their values and learn the process of criticizing and reconstructing them... under skilled guidance.

Teen violence, family breakdown, rejection of truth and mockery of parents are just a few of the devastating consequences of today's psycho-social manipulation. To stand against the skilled guides of this global age, we must know God's Word, wear The Armor of God, encourage each other, pray for guidance and look to the only One who can lead us through the battle in triumph. His faithful servant, Jehoshophat, expressed it well:

“We have no power against this great multitude that is coming against us; nor do we know what to do, but our eyes are upon You.” 2 Chronicles 20:12

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1. Robert Hawley, Value Exploration Through Role Playing, 1975. Cited by Dennis Laurence Cuddy, Ph.D., Chronology of Education with Quotable Quotes (Highland City, FL: Pro Family Forum, 1994), page 57.

2. Harold and June Shane, "Forecast for the '70s" Today's Education, January 1969.Seeing parents as an enemy, the Shanes also warned that "Educators will assume a formal responsibility for children when they reach the age of two... [with] mandatory foster homes and 'boarding schools" for children whose home environment was felt to have a malignant influence."  Cited by Dr. Dennis Cuddy, page 43.

        These threats have become a frightening reality.  Those who have followed the "child abuse," know well that subjective and unreasonable accusations from coast to coast have led to horrendous violations of parental rights. With the million dollar rewards offered states with high foster care and adoption statistics, government workers are on constant lookout for "abused" children and uncooperative parents.  

3."The goal of education must be to develop a society in which people can live more comfortably with change than with rigidity. In the coming world, the capacity to face the new appropriately is more important than the ability to know and repeat the old."  Carl Rogers, "A Plan for Self-Directed Change in an Educational System" Education Leadership, May 1967.

The True Conspiracy

"The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 'Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.' He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision." Psalm 2:2-4

 

Promise from God.

Temple worship is gone.

Temple worship actually goes back to Judaism where that religion was centred on three things – the temple, the priesthood and the sacrifice. When Jesus came He ended all three.

Christianity started off as the only religion on the planet that had no sacred objects, sacred people and no sacred places – they had no sacred buildings for their worship. Only Christ

Ekklesia is not a physical place it is an assembly of people.

 1.The assembly of believers is an organism not an organization. A body is not a business. An entity nor an enterprise.
2.  2Corinth 6;16


The glory doesn’t reside anymore in buildings or organization.  It's realtionship simple and pure.
Thanks

The primtive congregation or ecclesia  was a community possesed by the Holy Spirit, and still should be.... has nothing to do with state controlled religion or profiterring ever... As a carreer, sorry, not a profession but way of life.it;s servitude filled/truth/knowledge with love for the lost may that be so with all of us..

Epígnosis refers to exact, complete, thorough, accurate, experiential knowledge, not just abstract, intellectual, head knowledge of God or even facts about Him. Epígnosis always describes moral and religious knowledge in the NT and especially refers to full and comprehensive knowledge of God’s will that rests on the knowledge of God and of Christ found today in His Word.

I would like to add to t  2 Corinth 3 tells us of the Holy Spirit not just a people of print but real life indwelling presence of God in us, long before they had paper and  they had his presence, maybe we have all paper and no presence? just kidding,,, I think man is afraid of t faith because it crosses over the measurable external things we prove by  to see  how we do, is where God loves the impossible for us, and things we not show and see and control, the knowledge here is not gnosis based,  wisdom it;s derived by the wakening power of God . TAKE CARE..

We're an Ekklesia

An ecclesia is about people, the Scriptures says we are the temple now.

Whereas a ‘church’ in many people’s minds is a building, or denomination, there are  no such things in scripture,  an ecclesia is a group of people, “an assembly of the called”, meets anywhere with any of the people in homes or otherwise, meeting house but we desire to avoid the huge expenses of buildings and many of the added traditions, but rather adhere to what God original plane  is...which is the literal meaning of the Greek.

 For those of us in the happy position of being Christadelphians, and who thereby belong to an ecclesia, the term should be a reminder not just of our “calling” by God ( as in Eph. 4:4; Phil. 3:14; Heb. 3:1, John17,), but also of the fact that we have been called, not into a building made up of literal stones, but rather into a spiritual lining temple made up of people who are being fashioned for eternal life swallowed up in life by their Creator.

 Unlike a church, which is built of inanimate materials,wood and titles and stones, an ecclesia consists, by definition, of people, of men and women who are “called to be saints” (1 Cor. 1:2). In responding to the invitation from God through the call of the gospel, therefore, we come, as the writer to the Hebrews puts it, “to the general assembly  or Tyndale would have held to the original   design of God, not man would make the statements such as the  of the firstborn, which are written in heaven” (12:23).

Our desire is to see the body unified and able.We could not find historical justification for what was added latter as having Biblical place, perhaps we can unify and experience the once power the body had inthe begining beofre it decided to follow man for the fear of public opinion and noterity and wealth onto love and care and hope and faith.

We do nto feel money is bad buthe love it often leads to distortion and power, and desire to do wicket things to hold onto control or status.

we added the article taken from the hiscox paper

An interesting observation: (Hiscox Standard Baptist Manual, p. 120). Hiscox believed the New Testament church was completely autonomous (independent), but that man could improve upon God's original design by developing Associations, State Conventions and Conferences. Other groups  or denominations  ignoring the Bible pattern, have developed massive regional and national organizations. But he individualis remainslargely seeking else where to find the answers they need, we hope to provide the historical truths and direction back to faith. Our hope is to see the operation functionin their origanl intent.

It was well said that the scriptures must be understood in the same Spirit they are written in, like wise  it would appear wise to do things the way  God made them available to us without us seeking to place man above his creation Romans one.

We're merely stating to all our family lets get back to God letting him speak for himself ,we're happy to see the body be one . the things we could do if we stuck to the truth.

We associate ourselves, in other words, with those people who, in like manner to ourselves, have called out and changed by the Word of God and have thereby been “begotten . John 16-17,. . again unto a lively a living hope” (1 Pet. 1:3,23-25), John 3-16.

It will become apparent, in our consideration of the role and purpose of the ecclesia, that people, with all their needs, and more so Gifts  can and will  contribute  to by which grwoth will take place.

 

We aid those interested to learn study and move quickly beyond the elementary things, to compare and think and exercise faith , discernment, by stepping out of their comfort zones in a life in which the impossible becomes in time a passion to live by,onto Christ by which to grow onto maturity, not in hundreds of years but in life time.

We're not static or stagnant, and move all the time,and go places as fast as we can, while we pray to have more ways to go by, it;s living body that does more than it says 1 Corinth 4;20, we take  1 Corinth 1,2,3,  a great boost to go by.

We hold fast not to keep the body in ignorance or dependant but raise up those able to think for themselves in the fullness of the truth given us by which to bare testimony and guidance to those coming by faith and to the out reach so we may be effective. 

The ecclesia,  is our spiritual home, it;s all who are his  without the  add ons,our spiritual family, the channel through which we receive the benefits that flow to the children of God from their heavenly Father: Fellowship, spiritual food, forgiveness of sins, personal support, and wise counsel from likeminded brethren and sisters. Truly in the ecclesia, and only there, are the psalmist’s words fulfilled in our own experience: “The lines are fallen unto me in pleasant places; yea, I have a goodly heritage” (Ps. 16:6). Love ye one another. Pslam one, Porverbs one may bare his wisdom to guide us so  we do not have  to approve upon what God has decreed.

 

Thanks.....

A.W. Tozer The emphasis today in Christian circles appears to be on quantity, with a corresponding lack of emphasis on quality. Numbers, size and amount seem to be very nearly all that matters even among evangelicals. The size of the crowd, the number of converts, the size of the budget, the amount of the weekly collections: if these look good the church is prospering and the pastor is thought to be a success. The church that can show an impressive quantitative growth is frankly envied and imitated by other ambitious churches.

This is the age of the Laodiceans. The great goddess Numbers is worshiped with fervent devotion and all things religious are brought before her for examination. Her Old Testament is the financial report and her New Testament is the membership roll. To these she appeals as arbiters of all questions, the test of spiritual growth and the proof of success or failure in every Christian endeavor.

A little acquaintance with the Bible should show this up for the heresy it is. To judge anything spiritual by statistics is to judge by another than scriptural judgment. It is to admit the validity of externalism and to deny the value our Lord places upon the soul as over against the body. It is to mistake the old creation for the new and to confuse things eternal with things temporal. Yet it is being done every day by ministers, church boards and denominational leaders. And hardly anyone notices the deep and dangerous error.” (On Pursuing Quality Tozer)

we agree, FULLY
NW

The danger of non- scriptural NT traditions

An unnecessary interpretation not only introduces a new and potentially dangerous teaching into the world, but it also obscures the true meaning of a given passage, thus "making the word of God of none effect through your tradition" (Mark 7:13).

In recent discussions we dealt with allot of assumed truths as we went along, so we added a point of wisdom from scripture I really enjoyed this,  when things are assumed or read into in order to satisfy often self- centered intentions or assumed knowledge's. I think this helps,  in times like ours and over many centuries things are often done without any real thought but just goes along, amazing isn't it? Yet consequences prevail in both knowledge and ignorance or in intentional subversion as they do in doing what we are ask to do to receive a blessing.

Pray for the nation, as we are for the body more so, rough times are not past, there are consequences in the both  political and personal choices. We may no longer be able to print worthless paper to support, the ideas of utter foolishness.

NW