"The
Lord bless you and keep you;
The
Lord make His face shine upon you,
And be
gracious to you;
The
Lord lift up His countenance upon you,
and
give you peace!"
Numbers
6:24-2
In love and care may the body be one as it was intended with grace and abounding spirit and truth in love for the unity of all those in Christ free know the fullness of his presence in all of us..
A debate over words has far exceeded the state of merely accepting things without knowing the truth??? which has now become questioned, to the those seeking and having ask whatever happened to we shall do greater works than these goes unanswered, and refined a thousand times, yet the stagnation gone unchecked, often explained away in platonic reasoning, and often converted into the something you did wrong, we decided Each person is responsible for his own life we all will answer to God for our selves.
I added the following sections , we felt were deeply importan to know use of .http://www.biblestudiesonline.info/TGF/bootcamp/pb10epig.htm
(Worship in truth and spirit), it is not assumption and emotionalism and hand waving exercises, it requires honesty .
http://www.wenstrom.org/downloads/written/word_studies/greek/epignosis.pdf
http://www.wenstrom.org/downloads/written/word_studies/greek/epignosis.pdf
Vines' Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words says (at C-2)
Epignosis: "denotes exact or full knowledge, discernment, recognition, and
[expresses] a fuller or a full "knowledge," a greater participation by the
"knower" in the object "known," thus more powerfully influencing him. "In all
the four Epistles of the first Roman captivity it is an element in the Apostle's
opening prayer for his correspondents' well-being, Phil. 1:9; Eph. 1:17; Col.
1:9; Philem. 1:6" (Lightfoot)."
Vines' also says Epignosis is similar to Epiginosko (at A-3), which "denotes (a) "to observe, fully perceive, notice attentively, discern, recognize" and "suggests generally a directive, a more special, recognition of the object "known" than does [ginosko]; it also may suggest advanced "knowledge" or special appreciation; thus, in Rom. 1:32, "knowing the ordinance of God" (epiginosko) means "knowing full well," whereas in verse Rom. 1:21 "knowing God" (ginosko) simply suggests that they could not avoid the perception. Sometimes epiginosko implies a special participation in the object "known," and gives greater weight to what is stated; thus in John 8:32, "ye shall know the truth," ginosko is used, whereas in 1 Tim. 4:3, "them that believe and know the truth," epiginosko lays stress on participation in the truth."
Vines' also says Epignosis is similar to Epiginosko (at A-3), which "denotes (a) "to observe, fully perceive, notice attentively, discern, recognize" and "suggests generally a directive, a more special, recognition of the object "known" than does [ginosko]; it also may suggest advanced "knowledge" or special appreciation; thus, in Rom. 1:32, "knowing the ordinance of God" (epiginosko) means "knowing full well," whereas in verse Rom. 1:21 "knowing God" (ginosko) simply suggests that they could not avoid the perception. Sometimes epiginosko implies a special participation in the object "known," and gives greater weight to what is stated; thus in John 8:32, "ye shall know the truth," ginosko is used, whereas in 1 Tim. 4:3, "them that believe and know the truth," epiginosko lays stress on participation in the truth."
Some of the works we sent out clearly revealed the terms were in pagan forms entered through their desire to philosophize and explain to a culture with many gods using the same literacy forms reduced God to wordy system, legal forms not present in the real eccleasia, matter in fact in 300AD Ireanosus who says they no longer bore the any resemblance the apostolic forms , it was spiritless by than just one account of the many where the merging was argued over, Tyndale latter on went further the desire for power and wealth of those threatened ed by the truth led to his death.
Coming back requires seeing the truth and the right terms and forms to give the body it;s true relationship back without all the additives , thank you.
CASE ONE.
In Romans 1: 28, the heathen have rejected to hold God in their
"knowledge;" in 3: 20, "knowledge" of sin is by the law; and in
10: 2, the Jews' zeal is not according to "knowledge." In two of
these, epignosis is absolute, and in the other has "sin" for its object.
In none of the three does the compound seem, at first sight, very
different in meaning from simple gnosis.
The picture in the Prison Epistles is quite different. In Colossians
1: 9, Paul prays that his readers be filled with the "knowledge" of
his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; in 1: 10, the
prayer continues with the request that they increase in the "knowledge"
of God: in 2: 2, he "agonize!." for his readers to come to fullunderstanding of the "knowledge "of the mystery of God; and in
3: 10, the readers are said to have put on the new man who is renewed
in "knowledge." In Ephesians 1: 17, Paul prays that his readers be
granted a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the "knowledge" of
God; and in 4: 23 he desires to build up the church to a unity of the
faith and the "knowledge" of the Son of God. In Philemon 6, Paul
desires that Philemon have "knowledge" of every good thing in
Christ. In Philippians 1: 9, his prayer is for love to abound in all
"knowledge" and perception.
We note that epignosis, in these
We note that epignosis, in these
places, is almost invariably associated with such words as wisdom,
understanding, and perception; and with a prayer that the reader
abound, be filled, increase, be built up, or be effectual in this particular
quality. In these passages, the object of epignosis is God,
God's will, the mystery of God, the Son of God, or "every good thing. notice the differences lot of folks confuse the gnosis , withe divine knowledge now in us, they get confused ,,, the distinction is often not made so the assume part takes over,,,, guessing sets in,, I used to do that, remember my dad's ole joke do not assume, back fires often, things have back fired today in big ways...
perhaps we have the difference in the world of spirit led verses the natural mind unable to arrest the presence of God through it;s own means Romans 9, (nor of the will).
"There may be a false gnosis, but never
a false epignosis. The latter is a true, clear, full knowledge that is
personally embraced." 4 Strachan is on this same side:
Epignosis contrasted with gnosis marks "a higher degree of intensity, an
energy of deeper penetration. It is not a quiescent state, the resting in an
acquirement, but the advance of one to whom easy attainment is but the
impulse of fresh effort; one who is not content to know, but ever, in Hosea's
words (vi. 3), follows on to know"
Thus ginoskein means "to know" in the fullest sense that can be given to
the word "knowledge": epiginoskein directs attention to some particular
point in regard to which "knowledge" is affirmed. So that to perceive a
particular thing, or to perceive who a particular person is, may tidy be
expressed by epiginoskein. There is no such limitation about the word
ginoskein, though of course it may be so limited by its context ....
So far then as we are able to distinguish between gnosis and epignosis, we
may say that gnosis is the wider word and expresses "knowledge" in the
fullest sense: epignosis is knowledge directed towards a particular object,
perceiving, discerning, recognizing: but it is not knowledge in the abstract:
that is gnosis. It follows that the genitive after gnosis may be either subjective
or objective: but the genitive after epignosis denotes the object of the knowledge.
10
(Paget, Spirit of Discipline, p. 112).5
Rudolf Bultmann, "Gnosis" (Volume H, book n of Bible Key Words, from
Gerhard Kittel's Theologisches WorterbuchZum Neuen Testament, trans. from
German first edition and edited by J. R. Coates (New York: Harper &
Brothers, Publishers, 1958), p. 38.
2 Henry Alford, The Greek Testament, fourth edition (London, Oxford, &
Cambridge: Rivingtons, 1871), IV, 390.
3 Alfred Plummer, "The Second Epistle of St. Peter," A Bible Commentary
for English Readers, Charles Ellicott, editor (London: Cassell & Company,
Ltd., n.d.), VIII,444.
4 R. C. H. Lenski, The Interpretation of the Epistles of St. Peter, St. John and
St. Jude (Columbus: The Wartburg Press, 1945), p. 253.
5 R. H. Strachan, "The Second Epistle General of Peter," The Expositor's
Greek Testament, W. Robertson Nicoll, editor (Grand Rapids: Wm.B.
Eerdmans, 1951), V, 127.
The goal is to move ahead onto maturity the ability to discern deduce the truth from error discerning of the spirits.
THE STRUCTURE OF FORMS
Clergy with titles and authority was foreign to the early disciples also. It was the rise of this authoritarian clergy that needed a building to control the people both religiously and politically. The Catholic Church and the Church of England both used the word “church” and its meaning as a building to hold the people in subjection to their control. Without a building they would have lost their power over the people. Even today, without a building the clergy system would fall. This system of clergy/laity and the use of a building is what we have come to know as the “institutional” church system. This system was totally foreign to the vocabulary and the life of the disciples of Jesus, who built and depended on the move of the Holy Spirit through all the people being built together.
Therefore the retaining of the word "church" in our translations of the bible became crucial for the survival of the institutional church system even to this day. To change the true meaning and function of the Greek word “ekklesia” to our English word “church” strengthened the clergy system and their power over the people. The statement, “power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely” has been the downfall and corruption of the body ministry. The original intent was relational and not institutional.
THE WORD STUDY WE ADDED ABOVE CLEARS UP THE BOTH DISTINCTIONS
STRUCTURE IS DEEPLY INFLENUCNED BY THE RIGHT OR WRONG USE.
THE WORD STUDY WE ADDED ABOVE CLEARS UP THE BOTH DISTINCTIONS
STRUCTURE IS DEEPLY INFLENUCNED BY THE RIGHT OR WRONG USE.
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Epignosis: precise and correct knowledge used in the NT of the knowledge of things ethical and divine.
Epignosis - New Testament Greek Lexicon - King James Version
The word epignosis {ep-ig'-no-sis} means "to become thoroughly
acquainted with, to know thoroughly, to know accurately, know
well" (Thayer)
Gnosis is academic knowlege and must come first, while Epignosis is accurate knowledge and full understanding resulting in wisdom. ((relationship driven knowledge faith in action))),
Ephesians 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge(epignosis) of Him.
Ephesians 4:13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge (epignosis) of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
Phil 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge (epignosis) and all discernment,
Col 1:9 For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge (epignosis) of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10] so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge (epignosis) of God;
Col 2:2 that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and attaining to all the wealth that comes from the full assurance of understanding, resulting in a true knowledge (epignosis) of God's mystery, that is, Christ Himself,
Col 3:10 and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge (epignosis) according to the image of the One who created him.
1 Tim 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge (epignosis) of the truth.
2 Tim 3:6 For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7] always learning and never able to come to the knowledge (epignosis) of the truth.
Titus 1:1 Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge (epignosis) of the truth which is according to godliness,
Philemon 1:6 and I pray that the fellowship of your faith may become effective through the knowledge (epignosis) of every good thing which is in you for Christ's sake.
2 Peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge (epignosis) of God and of Jesus our Lord; 3]seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge (epignosis) of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence
Gnosis can result in arrogance, but epignosis results in wisdom, and along with love, edifies.The word epignosis {ep-ig'-no-sis} means "to become thoroughly
acquainted with, to know thoroughly, to know accurately, know
well" (Thayer)
the arrogance of power and corruption in forms and control come from not knowing God, simple the deeds of the nicolations was to conquer people, divide them and over come their personal connection was what Tyndale was deeply concerned for , he full well knew the terms they argued over came from the esoteric origins and forms of the past, Circe the druid temples forms were in his verbiage and understood ..
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Epignosis: precise and correct knowledge used in the NT of the knowledge of things ethical and divine.
Epignosis - New Testament Greek Lexicon - King James Version
The word epignosis {ep-ig'-no-sis} means "to become thoroughly
acquainted with, to know thoroughly, to know accurately, know
well" (Thayer)
Gnosis is academic knowlege and must come first, while Epignosis is accurate knowledge and full understanding resulting in wisdom. ((relationship driven knowledge faith in action))),
Ephesians 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge(epignosis) of Him.
Ephesians 4:13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge (epignosis) of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
Phil 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge (epignosis) and all discernment,
Col 1:9 For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge (epignosis) of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10] so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge (epignosis) of God;
Col 2:2 that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and attaining to all the wealth that comes from the full assurance of understanding, resulting in a true knowledge (epignosis) of God's mystery, that is, Christ Himself,
Col 3:10 and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge (epignosis) according to the image of the One who created him.
1 Tim 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge (epignosis) of the truth.
2 Tim 3:6 For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7] always learning and never able to come to the knowledge (epignosis) of the truth.
Titus 1:1 Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge (epignosis) of the truth which is according to godliness,
Philemon 1:6 and I pray that the fellowship of your faith may become effective through the knowledge (epignosis) of every good thing which is in you for Christ's sake.
2 Peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge (epignosis) of God and of Jesus our Lord; 3]seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge (epignosis) of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence
Gnosis can result in arrogance, but epignosis results in wisdom, and along with love, edifies.The word epignosis {ep-ig'-no-sis} means "to become thoroughly
acquainted with, to know thoroughly, to know accurately, know
well" (Thayer)
the arrogance of power and corruption in forms and control come from not knowing God, simple the deeds of the nicolations was to conquer people, divide them and over come their personal connection was what Tyndale was deeply concerned for , he full well knew the terms they argued over came from the esoteric origins and forms of the past, Circe the druid temples forms were in his verbiage and understood ..
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/1507069-have-precise-correct-knowledge-god-messages.html#ixzz3Bmtb28lV