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We do not want another committee, we have too many already.
What we want is a man of sufficient stature to hold the allegiance of all the people and
lift us up out of the economic morass into which we are sinking.
Send us such a man, and whether he be God or devil, we will receive him.” – Paul-Henri Spaak, President of the United Nations General Assembly
In the  recent show the black awakening is  described  as under way as our amusement park culture falls ever deeper into a near unredeemable  complicacy ,will the fall to the bottom finally cause us to look up! `"blind   desperation "man seeks to rescue his ill  attempts..
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Thus wisdom has amazing clear insight, proverbs1

Alexandrian philosophy apprehends the message in a very

different way from that in which it is received by a mind formed in African schools of rhetoric and courts of law.

 

Now words are stamped with the philosophies, the religions, the superstitions, and the customs of those through whose mouths

they have passed. But a word may be, and most words are, so worn by use that the original image and superscription are no longer

visible except to skilled investigators ; they pass current without a thought of the mint whence they were issued. Their present value

in mental commerce is the only thing considered.This is so obvious that I should scarcely think it necessary to mention it were it not that it seems to have been ignored by some earnest and able quirers.

Real knowing , knowing the differences,

I want to take a slight detour here, to look at epignosis [1922]. It is a stronger knowledge than gnosis [1108], for gnosis is the general knowledge, where epignosis is the full knowledge - a knowledge that powerfully impacts and influences the one who knows it.
Amongst verbal forms, there is ginosko [1097] - to come to knowledge, understand, to know in the sense of realizing.

 It often indicates a relationship between the one who knows and the thing known, generally with approval. Oida, or eido [1492], indicates a having seen or perceived and thereby knowing. By comparison, ginosko is the coming to knowledge, whereas oida is the fullness of knowledge (Jn 8:55 - you have not ginosko Him, but I oida Him.

You haven't begun to know, but I know perfectly.) Oida, on the other hand does not have the implication of relation to the knowledge that ginosko has. Epiginosko [1921], the verbal form of epignosis, indicates a fullness of perception, an attentiveness in discernment. It is a more direct and special knowing than ginosko, indicating a greater degree or completeness of the knowing.

 Epiginosko tends to suggest a participation in the thing known. As a comparison point, Jn 8:32 indicates that you shall ginosko the truth - a general knowledge. By contrast, 1Ti 4:3 speaks of those that believe and epiginosko the truth - the knowledge having led to belief. It is a knowledge that fully unites the subject with the object.


Another way to view the three ways of knowing is that eido is to know intuitively - it is knowledge perceived immediately, and requiring no application of reason. Ginosko is to know experientially - it is knowledge gained by trial and practice. Epiginosko takes the experiential knowledge of ginosko a step further, the thing becoming so known as to cause profound change in the one who knows it.


This idea of epignosis or epiginosko has been showing up so frequently lately in various bits of my studies. It is the knowledge so fully participated in that it can change my life. As such, and as my prayers move toward that degree of knowing, I want to see those places it has been used. Vine notes 20 places that epignosis shows up in the New Testament..

The orgin of words

Church [Old English cirice, circe; Middle English chereche, chiriche, chirche; whence churche, cherche, etc.: -Greek Kuriakon...]

Kirk The Northern English and Scottish form of CHURCH, in all its senses.
In the earlier Greek It was pronounced "ku-ri-a-kos" or "ku-ri-a-kon." As you can see, this word doesn't even resemble the Greek word "ecclesia" whose place it has usurped. The meaning of "Ku-ri-a-kos" is understood by its root: "Ku- ri-os," which means "lord." Thus, "kuriakos" (i.e., "church") means "pertaining to the lord." It refers to something that pertains to, or belongs to, a lord. The Greek "kuriakos" eventually came to be used in Old English form as "cirice" (Kee-ree-ke), then "churche" (kerke), and eventually "church" in its traditional pronunciation. A church, then, is correctly something that "pertains to, or belongs to, a lord."







Now, as you can see, there is a major problem here. The translators broke the rules in a big way. When they inserted the word "church" in the English versions, they were not translating the Greek word "kuriakos", as one might expect. Rather, they were substituting an entirely different Greek word. This was not honest! The word "church" would have been an acceptable translation for the Greek word "kuriakos." However, not by the wildest imagination of the most liberal translator can it ever be an acceptable translation for the Greek word "ecclesia." Are you following this? Consider it carefully. This truth will answer many questions you've had about

t churches, and the kingdom.


"Ecclesia" is an entirely different word with an entirely different meaning than "kuriakos." In fact, the Greek word "kuriakos" appears in the New Testament only twice. It is found once in I Corinthians 11:20 where it refers to "the Lord's supper," and once again in Revelation 1:10 where it refers to "the Lord's day." In both of those cases, it is translated "the Lord's..." - not "church." This word does not appear again in the New Testament. Nonetheless, this is the unlikely and strange history of the word "church" as it came to the English language.




 Eventually, through the manipulation of organized religion "church" came to replace "ecclesia" by popular acceptance. Again, we must emphasize the importance of knowing word meanings in order to know the intent of those who wrote the Scriptures.
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   We prefer congregation,  as people are the temple of God,  not the  buildings, were in the nt age now, not old. Time to move ahead me to move ahead  we agree, love to all.

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Hypnotic effect of philosphy

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The Invention of The Ancients / Perennial Philosophy

 

The today untenable idea of an Ancient Wisdom Tradition that Theosophists and Esotericists are referring to,  had its roots in the Renaissance where the Cabalah as "the oral Torah," was considered the Ancient Wisdom Teaching.  

 

Renaissance philosophers (deemed "science") taught the Cabalah contained the secret teachings of Moses, an oral supplement to Scripture, making it possible to accurately interpret the written Word of the Bible. (Pico della Mirandola "On the Dignity of Man" p. 29)  

In other words the Renaissance  philosopher/scientists worked within a view of history in which their own tradition was represented as an ancient philosophy, contemporary with Moses, only to have this legend gradually undermined by scholarly studies, the Enlightenment rejected this old order.  

 

 

Renaissance Neo-Platonist used the "prisca theologia" (ancient wisdom tradition) theory to support their claim that Platonism was reconcilable with Christian doctrines.

 

 

 1 Corinthian 1-4 does  not support the  use of the ancient mystery religions, God has no use for them, though it is used often without notice due the lack of any historical  know how,   as the origins of these forms or philosophies today are often renamed and used without awareness. 

Hypnotic effect of philosphy

Thanks.

The Invention of The Ancients / Perennial Philosophy

 

The today untenable idea of an Ancient Wisdom Tradition that Theosophists and Esotericists are referring to,  had its roots in the Renaissance where the Cabalah as "the oral Torah," was considered the Ancient Wisdom Teaching.  

 

Renaissance philosophers (deemed "science") taught the Cabalah contained the secret teachings of Moses, an oral supplement to Scripture, making it possible to accurately interpret the written Word of the Bible. (Pico della Mirandola "On the Dignity of Man" p. 29)  

In other words the Renaissance  philosopher/scientists worked within a view of history in which their own tradition was represented as an ancient philosophy, contemporary with Moses, only to have this legend gradually undermined by scholarly studies, the Enlightenment rejected this old order.  

 

 

 

Renaissance Neo-Platonist used the "prisca theologia" (ancient wisdom tradition) theory to support their claim that Platonism was reconcilable with Christian doctrines.

 

 

 1 Corinthian 1-4 does  not support the  use of the ancient mystery religions, God has no use for them, though it is used often without notice due the lack of any historical  know how,   as the origins of these forms or philosophies today are often renamed and used without awareness. 

More of faith, the orgin of faith

FAITH  what it is ?

The root of 4102/pistis ("faith") is 3982/peithô ("to persuade, be persuaded") which supplies the core-meaning of faith ("divine persuasion"). It is God's warranty that guarantees the fulfillment of the revelation He births within the receptive believer (cf. 1 Jn 5:4 with Heb 11:1).
 

Faith (4102/pistis) is always received from God, and never generated by us.

Ro 12:3: "For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith (4102/pistis)" (NASU).

 

Eph 2:8,9: " For by grace you have been saved through faith (4102/pistis); and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; ⁹not as a result of works, so that no one may boast" (NASU).

 

Accordingly, faith (4102/pistis) and "God's preferred-will (2307/thelçma)" are directly connected in Scripture.

2 Ro 12:2,3: " And do not be conformed to this world, but betransformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will (2307/thelçma) of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. ³For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith (4102/pistis)" (NASU).

 

 

NASU).

Heb 10:36,38: "³⁶For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will (2307/thelçma) of God, you may receive what was promised" (NASU).

" BUT MY RIGHTEOUS ONE SHALL LIVE BY FAITH(4102/pistis); AND IF HE SHRINKS BACK, MY SOUL HAS NO PLEASURE IN HIM" (NASU).

1 Jn 5:4: "For whatever is born of God conquers the world;

 

 

and this is the conquest that has conquered the world – our faith

(4102/pistis)."

3. In sum, faith (4102/pistis) is a persuasion from God that we receive as He grants impulse ("divine spark"; cf. the Heb hiphil form of believe, *mn, in a later discussion). Faith is always the work of God and involves hearing His voice – whereby the believer lays hold of His preferred-will (cf. J. Calvin).

 

 

Real faith is derived out of relationship with God , it has little to do with human philosophy, nothing man can do to make his own ascent to God he must come through Christ  once he does it is life of faith. why we support knowing what is said clearly  rather than  guessing or subjecting non factual terms into mere emotional rhetoric, real faith pleases God, other wise is considered sin,  he with draws from him who does so ,  it helps one see the demise of both Sardis and Laodicea and  Pergamum   were acts of compromise which lacked faith and merged into the esoteric  philosophies of the mystery religions, weakness, ease,  and  fallen under  the hypnotic effect of worldly prosperity and philosophy.

 

1. In all of Scripture, only the term faith is ever used in the following way: Ro 14:23: Whatever is not of faith (4102/pistis) is sin." Heb 11:6: "And without faith (4102/pistis) it is impossible to
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3. please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him" (NASU).

Reflection: Nothing quite like this two-fold witness appears elsewhere in the Bible. These sweeping statements sober the heart and inspire the soul!

The Lord offers to inbirth faith in each scene of life – so that each matters equally in eternity . . . no matter how insignificant they seem (Lk 16:10 with Lk 17:6 and 2 Pet 1:2).

 

 

 Our message for all those in ecclesia  gatherings  there can be no greater time than now to know the difference between the real faith  which is derived out relationship that brings awareness of the presence of our inward God.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What makes the real differnce in how we walk.

Every Dispensation Governed by Faith

Now, there is another thing which this shows, and it is that faith is not something which has come with the New Testament dispensation, but that faith has been the principle by which the Lord governed His saints in every age.

The Lord never intended the dispensation of the law through Moses to be other than a faith dispensation, and it is not just the contrast between the works of the law and faith that is before us; because you have faith here taken up in relation to all the people who were under the law and made the standard of their judgment.

By faith Moses... by faith Israel, and onward under that whole dispensation, everybody was judged according to faith.

Faith ever has been and ever will be the primary thing with God, the supreme thing. It is a thing which governs all ages in the mind of the Lord. Faith is the thing for every age. A Sparks

Prayerful research,

Reasoning's bringing down, and every high thing lifted up against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of the Christ, Young's

  I was deeply thank full the book on Tyndale and use of words  which dealt with his knowledge on the terms  changed in translation to insert a non biblical  form. To the authors I  give thanks to Green and Zens as well.

 The extended history researched from the English publications fully exposed the political  and esoteric dynamic of the origins as intent and design  of having done so.


For we overthrow arrogant 'reckonings,' and every stronghold that towers high in defiance of the knowledge of God, and we carry off every thought as if into slavery--into subjection to Christ; Weymouth   Bible ..
I could not agree more! with North's tidal on the intoxicating effect of philosophy, leeched the life of the spirit led    into human rational,  pretty much despite the warnings  of the  nature of the  spiritual  weakness Paul intended  in the first Corinthian letter following men . Using the world's systems. 

We have a tendency to forget that a person is not only committed to Jesus Christ for salvation, but is also committed, responsible, and accountable to Jesus Christ’s view of God, the world, and of sin and the devil. This means that each person must recognize the responsibility to “be transformed by the renewing of [his] mind as a  result of awareness  or lead of the  Spirit verses human philosophy….” (Romans 12:2).kj3.

  Fellowship  with Christ is union  with both the lord and his  truth their is no separation  of that condition which would promote being Spirit led.

  It is the Christ life , manifested in their lives  despite intentional doubt, by faith they acted out the spirit  the way of life is for us to become the written living epistle now not of ink but of life  many still looking for ink proof,  their missing the whole point of spirit led  read 1 Corinthian 1-4 in the neb or the kj3 Weymouth.. it is and always was and will be relational what it's all about a  recreation of relationship once lost  not another temple religion engineered by man for profit  to the sophist.  hierarchy that  is not  found in the Greek text.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcXdIgEUsHg get free, grace alone in Christ alone, break into the life of Christ , it's hard, and  tough and uncompromised,   and will not run from consequences  of being truthful.

Love abounds to world shattered in it's many unwise decisions. His love over come the evil and the consequence of mass drug adduction, broking families the political machinery be hide creating the condition,  all the other near unnamable  consequences  under way today.

Alternative  is grace real love,  that has real wisdom,  unmixed and connected to the life source not by human philosophy but by one who is unwilling sell out for the  short term mis information .  1 Corinthian 4. kj3 /Wyeth/ NEB
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Getting back the dynamic of real faith

The greatest  cause of which captivity and the decay of the faith and this blindness where in we are now. sprang first of the allegories.

 For Origen and the doctors of his time drew all the scripture unto allegories: whose example that came after followed  so long, till they last for got the order and process of the text, supposing the scripture served but to feign allegories upon; insomuch that twenty doctors expound one text twenty ways as children make decent on plain song. Then came our sophisters with their  analogical and chopological sense,  and with  an antitheme of half an  inch, out of which some of them drew a thread nine days long . quoting Tyndale.

 Which I could not agree with more, as an ecclesia the function is purely relational with JESUS always.

These alternative methods have muddied the waters  of being spirit led and the effects there of with the  hypnotic effects  of philosophy being so addictive,(North) .  Along with power and wealth placed real faith under  siege in the  former covenant practices. Eeven with protestants who merely renamed the ole forms, which  kept the hierarchal forms for themselves, know full well that  was not to be..their origins  were not scriptural but altered in text, and  emphasis,   for their existence is challenged by Tyndale, others since have done so . 

In one sense one might say the Hegelian  dialect was created  in it's action political  effect transferred over to the faith .

Effect was applied  in order to create  conflict and compromise, the real question of truth  is until recently  more likely to be  spoke by Barna etc, the desire is to return to a community of faith without the secular power structures or forms  in some cases esoteric origins used which were not endorsed by Christ in his ministry of servitude and truth.

Were not able to regain the true ecclesia by design,  in having done so.  As it is and was, but  while others selected  to take the risk for truth I to joined for the purpose of  the fullness over  the divided ....  In which the people were his  temple and treated as such, that their were no mediums whether they be institutions or  offices but as servants of love and  the ability to discern spiritually over the drive for economic power or political entrée. Elder ship was function of spiritual maturity not physco babble or Greek philosophy,  but one as being conscious of being led of the spirit and nurtured in faith and  maturity as servants.

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