Tuesday, October 22, 2013

Words of wisdom



Wisdom



You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve God while your heart and life are devoted to monetary or material security the lust thereof, it destroye you and your family and close friends.  According to Jesus, if you are serving money as your master, then you “despise” God.

Our nation is plagued with it, not that money is bad, nor are guns, or cars which kill 50,000 per year, and no one blinks, it is the misuse of anything  that leads to murder, theft,taxes. Anything that takes what does not belong to another.

And the destruction of our relationship with God is the end result, as mercy and love are destroyed or overlooked to achieve self advantage.

Phil 3:7-8 But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish in order that I may gain Christ. (NAS)


Phil 3:18-19 For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, {that they are} enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, whose god is {their} appetite, and {whose} glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things. (NAS)


I Jn 2:15-17 Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. And the world is passing away, and {also} its lusts; but the one who does the will of God abides forever. (NAS)


James 4:2-5 You lust and do not have; {so} you commit murder. And you are envious and cannot obtain; {so} you fight and quarrel. You do not have because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend {it} on your pleasures. You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you think that the Scripture speaks to no purpose: "He jealously desires the spirit which He has made to dwell in us"? (NAS)

Sunday, October 20, 2013

Myteries discussed.

“The man who would truly know God must give time to Him.”    seek  me early, or first, formost and I will draw close to you. Got to be his way.

Case one breaking spells

1.The mysteries at work: the danger of cult is and mysteries was defined by Paul  in galation's was case for the definition of the legal spirit. Angus  writes the  "when Paul entered the lists on behalf of a religion of the free spirit as against  the cult of legalism he is relay opposing magic in religion. legalism places people under  a spell of control, these are things added to place in bondage to a man or system of theology or philosophy and rule over those who are unable to discern truth from error.


The Mysteries-Religions linked themselves to  pseudo-science, Astrology, and with pseudo -religion, magic.





Magic would soon become the basterd sister to religion, (angus) was the most dangerous ally. Egyptians, geeks and Jews, Samaritans Romans, all practiced the black art, it would be passed on in the all the cultures and teachings of the time and to this day with new names.

Philo provided the corrective to the hardness of legalism and to the degeneracy of trust in God in God to the trust in the law, corresponding to the later degeneration of Christian faith from a  religious trust into creedal assent and acceptance of meta physical formula. quote.

Paul on the other hand rather the imitation of a Christian life is a growth in faith as in every grace, perhaps faith must always be viewed as the clue to spiritual progress as well as the crown. I agree the mystery of legalism is with us today it is used to enforce self change not revelatory, the danger of the present the mystery of today tries to unit them.

Unlike philo faith in Paul is not something inferior to the ecstatic or the mystic as superior knowledge is given or which gives it defined in the Greek terms above secular  knowledge but derived in personal relationship.  word translator clearly defines the difference in the gnosis etc. faith depends wholly on the mystic or supernatural realm provided by God as Spirit. Paul himself is pneumatic. He championed faith as he did the gifts operated in the true body. True faith does not borrow from the mystery religions.


 I felt this would help people see the difference and confusion of our time when it comes to the origins that were struggling for power over the masses, the mysteries are as real today as they were than, a proportion are still attached inside Christianity and few know the difference.  It's extremely deep and well hidden for the very reason to follow the effect of a seedling, makes a  case  fro discernment and Sprit led mind.,  your not likely going to notice and follow often without question.

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God hated the religious practices, the Jews added he wanted their hearts,not their religion.(Isa)

HEBREW RELIGION; was differentiated from all other religions of antiquity by personal trust in living God. This to restore a personal relationship with him. Mysteries were unable they were man centered, or a esoteric spirit, this would once again insert itself in process of progression into  after the first century as the hierarchy of pagan origin began to set in.
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The mysteries  lived in the offices and power struggles for control and wealth was not far behind.  Present day religion  is largely missed what Paul based value on.. escaping the grip of the mysteries requires a total change and honest  attitude for the truth.

getting back Jesus !

nw

Those vital points, in life.

The love that you seek is joy to hear, it is deepest desire.

“The yearning to know what cannot be known, to comprehend the incomprehensible, to touch and taste the unapproachable, arises from the image of God in the nature of man. Deep calleth unto deep, and though polluted and landlocked by the mighty disaster theologians call the Fall, the soul senses its origin and longs to return to its source.”   The only way back is Christ alone.
I am the truth and the light JESUS Pure love is not without conditions.











“An infinite God can give all of Himself to each of His children. He does not distribute Himself that each may have a part, but to each one He gives all of Himself as fully as if there were no others.”

The eccelsia is not subject to human philosophy as an end in itself,  it is subject to  one knowing the full weight of the fullness of God offered to his people freely. God has not placed the restrictions on your growth, as some would have  it, the ecclesia was free to experience and know God far out side the limitations prescribed  from use of secular philosophy containing the added limitations granted in the  form of  religion in place of person, and personal relationship , or they mixed them. When Christianity became a philosophy. 1 Corinthians 1,2,3, 


“The reason why many are still troubled, still seeking, still making little forward progress is because they haven't yet come to the end of themselves. We're still trying to give orders, and interfering with God's work within us. ”   Learning to hear is vital, it's the only way to escape the guess work and participate in a knowable relationship with the prince of life.  From the ecclesia at Narrowway.
Tozer



Psalm 51;5
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

We're not born good or pure, the fall is passed down. Only Christ has became sin for those who come through him.



GROWING!


“We need never shout across the spaces to an absent God. He is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most secret thoughts” Time to get close and know what it is to know.

“It is doubtful whether God can bless a man greatly until He has hurt him deeply.”  
Tozer

Tested therein you'll grow, without, it it's infancy.

“O God, I have tasted Thy goodness, and it has both satisfied me and made me thirsty for more. I am painfully conscious of my need for further grace.


Narrowway2011


My answer to the questions how can I believe in what you seen or experienced?

“Any faith that must be supported by the evidence of the senses is not real faith.”
God is pleased by faith not by doubt or fear. It is displeasing to him to see his people so intertwined in doubt, fear.







Getting off the fence of self deception:

“Jesus calls us to his rest, and meekness is His method. The meek man cares not at all who is greater than he, for he has long ago decided that the esteem of the world is not worth the effort.”  







Thursday, October 17, 2013

The right side of the path

Wherefore if God so clothe the grass, which is today in the

field, and tomorrow shall be cast into the furnace: shall he

not much more do the same unto you, o ye of little faith?

Therefore take no thought saying: what shall we eat, or what

shall we drink, or wherewith shall we be clothed? After all

these things seek the Gentiles. For your heavenly father

knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But rather

seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and the righteousness

thereof, and all these things shall be ministered unto you.

Care not then for the morrow, but let the morrow care for

itself: for the day present hath ever enough of his own

trouble.

"Ever wonder what real trust looks like."

Inside out?



It also leads to know our selves, that we yearn for the day of a new place and existance, that even our own flesh is unabelto to be consistant. God knew we were so. And would  spend our life time on earth in struggle of our own flesh and the Spirit.

The loneliness of the Christian results from his walk with God in an ungodly world, a walk that must often take him away from the fellowship of good Christians as well as from that of the unregenerate world. His God-given instincts cry out for companionship with others of his kind, others who can understand his longings, his aspirations, his absorption in the love of Christ; and because within his circle of friends there are so few who share his inner experiences he is forced to walk alone.
The unsatisfied longings of the prophets for human understanding caused them to cry out in their complaint, and even our Lord Himself suffered in the same way.

The man [or woman] who has passed on into the divine Presence in actual inner experience will not find many who understand him. He finds few who care to talk about that which is the supreme object of his interest, so he is often silent and preoccupied in the midst of noisy religious shoptalk. For this he earns the reputation of being dull and over-serious, so he is avoided and the gulf between him and society widens.
He searches for friends upon whose garments he can detect the smell of myrrh and aloes and cassia out of the ivory palaces, and finding few or none he, like Mary of old, keeps these things in his heart.
It is this very loneliness that throws him back upon God. His inability to find human companionship drives him to seek in God what he can find nowhere else."


Have to admit I was suprised, going alone is by far a huge blessing, it is completely depenant on God alone, it is where narrowway lives in it;s greatest joy.


Bliss- oh unpeakable words only those above can hear,
hours pass in timeless space, power comes from another place ,no place for human words, not mans empty praise , I ever seek.
Only silence,as the Spirit whispers words not from here.
Like his power come from no where,to those who hear no other, one knows he is always there.
Trust I must, His light is brighter than the sun.
My life is his,take me hither.
FS

Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Somethings never change ...

Blind respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." - Einstein


History repeats it self to those who know no better, souls are bought at a cheap price.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPIOkdNL-QQ&feature=pyv


want to get free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the air I breath, it;s the ambition of my existance.... enjoy love to you all out there...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oad8ov10AjY

Saturday, October 12, 2013

Getting free from darkness.

 Hope for those trapped in darkness?  by all means, Christ can lead you out of the desire for power anger and hatred.

The mysteries are based on the luciferian doctrines, with it's many followers at all levels of society including inside the faith. The ancient mystics sought the power and knowledge of the past pre-flood age as we do today with new names like trans humanism and singularity and the new spirituality. The desire to be our own Gods in the new Socialistic world order. Just imagine the new heights of arrogance that welcome it's strange ways.



The use Satanism is total a failure, and loss to those in it...The anger and hate becomes way of those seeking power and place over others, as it is themselves. And the Spirit seeks a constant descent into  ever increasing  desires for power. In time it gives into it's lie to gain power by destroying others for it's own gain. It's generational, as it can be passed from one to another. Location wise as well.

My prayer is for those lost in it to get set free." It was well said that man will sell his soul for kingship of a dung hill as long as he is king" . Spoken  hundreds of  years back. In a Spirit of love to see one set free from a false hope to living life in Christ filled with real love you seek and hope.
Gospel of John, Spirit gives life, without him the paper make no sense.

The natural man can not understand them...Only the Spirit of God gives life no building or man can do that only the incarnated one. The demonic spirit often hides and operates in the open and is able to fool the many. But those who are truly in Christ and able to discern know the difference 1 Corinth 1,2,3 it's relationship that provides the life giving power not a festive religion with humanism at it's center. 2 Corinth 3. 1Peter 1,2

Freedom from it;s grip can only be found in Christ.Praying for you to come out and be set free.
NW
 


Tithing ?.



Greetings a brief note on Cyprian,,, where the tithe came from?, in my own research the Cyprian was the one who brought in the practice, Angus and Walker there was no such thing under the ecclesia it never provided a guaranteed income life for those in ministry . Matter in fact Angus in his research disposes of the mysteries practices used as were added  in  in reaction to the Gnostics... And the ecclesiastic over lords later used by King James Bible were translated to get as far away from the priest hood of the believers as possible to  over to the few. The very terms were challenged and led to the burning of Tyndale, "I wonder how long do think we will remain dismissing those facts? is it wrong to aid those serving no...
 it was wrong to use false practice to  do so no matter leaving out the spirit by human mandate.
The Author Angus 1910 dives in the strange forms and struggles which  took place between the mysteries and impact into Christianity . Magic was strong at that time, not much different today.,  where the word and practice of esoteric world came out of. Merges into direct conflict and influence into the early Christian body as it does to today in it's blended states.

My own personal .

Englshmans's  discussion,

The early Church - prior to Constantine - DID NOT uphold tithing, OT [practice, Tithing is something which we certainly find in the Old Testament since the Israelites were plainly required to tithe. The original Levitical system was terribly legalistic of course, but a legalistic system is precisely what we are discussing here! If one starts to consider the complexities of the various kinds of animal sacrifices which were required under this system, one wonders how the whole Levitical system did not entirely break down under a sea of confusion!

Modernism restored tithing, as we have seen, bears little semblance to the biblical model which was part of the legal code of ancient Israel. That law - within a simple and agrarian society - was concerned with the needs of the poor. Modern tithing, however, is mainly concerned with funding local church congregations in a society - or societies - which usually bear little or no resemblance to the Israel of Leviticus. Therefore those who strongly promote tithing realize that there is little point in quoting Old Testament Scriptures.

So attempts are sometimes made to appeal to the very few New Testament Scriptures in which tithing gets a mention. Unfortunately these people are in serious trouble before they even start. Why? Because they know that New Testament premier writer and theologian, the Apostle Paul, is completely silent on the subject, whereas these people would dearly love to have a Scripture in which he enthusiastically backs it!
In all honesty, I have to say that NOT A SINGLE NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE SUPPORTS TITHING AS SOMETHING WHICH CHRISTIANS SHOULD BE PRACTISING IN OUR DAY! We might as well say that straight away.

They gave in the ministry as part of servitude  is the direction it all took.I fear that most Christians in the West don't really grasp how much some have to struggle even to survive in many impoverished parts of the world. I am reminded of the words of Dr Paul Brand, a missionary surgeon:
"...From the perspective of a missionary who spent eighteen years in one of the poorest countries on earth, the contrasts in resources are astonishingly large. At Vellore we treated leprosy patients on three dollars per patient per year; yet we turned many away for lack of funds. Then we came to America where some churches were heatedly discussing their million-dollar gymnasiums...and sponsoring seminars on tax shelters for members to conserve their accumulated wealth." (p60, 'Fearfully and Wonderfully Made,' 1980 paperback, Philip Yancey and Dr Paul Brand. Zondervan, Grand Rapids).



 Tithing: (from Old English teogothian, 'tenth'), a custom dating back to Old Testament times and adopted by the Christian church whereby lay people contributed a 10th of their income for religious purposes, often under ecclesiastical or legal obligation. The money (or its equivalent in crops, farm stock, etc.) was used to support the clergy, maintain churches, and assist the poor. Tithing was also a prime source of subsidy for the construction of many magnificent cathedrals in Europe.
Despite serious resistance, tithing became obligatory as Christianity spread across Europe. It was enjoined by ecclesiastical law from the 6th century and enforced in Europe by secular law from the 8th century. In England in the 10th century, payment was made obligatory under ecclesiastical penalties by Edmund I and under temporal penalties by Edgar. In the 14th century Pope Gregory VII, in an effort to control abuses, outlawed lay ownership of tithes.


 

 During the 16th-century Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther approved in general of paying tithes to the temporal sovereign, and the imposition of tithes continued for the benefit of Protestant as well as Roman Catholic churches. Gradually, however, opposition grew. Tithes were repealed in France during the Revolution (1789), without compensation to tithe holders. Other countries abolished certain kinds of tithes and indemnified the holders. By 1887 the tithe had been brought to an end in Italy. It was abolished in Ireland at the disestablishment of the Anglican church in 1871, and it
gradually died out in the Church of Scotland. In England in 1836, the tithe was commuted for a rent charge depending on the price of grain, and in 1936 the tithe rent charges were abolished. New methods of taxation were developed in those countries that provided financial support of the church out of government funds. Remnants of the tithing system do exist, however, in certain Protestant European countries. In Germany, for example, citizens must pay a church tax unless they formally renounce membership in a church.

Tithe was never a legal requirement in the United States. Members of certain churches, however, including the Latter-day Saints and Seventh-day Adventists, are required to tithe, and some Christians in other churches do so voluntarily. The Eastern Orthodox churches never accepted the idea of tithes, and Orthodox church members have never paid them.


("tithe." Encyclopedia Britannica. 2006. Encyclopedia Britannica Premium Service. 4 June 2006.© This article is Copyright Robin A. Brace 2002. If you want it on your own website please do so but please also do the honorable thing and correctly quote the writer and state where the article comes from. You are also free to use 3 or 4 quotes from this article, but again, the writer's name should be quoted and you should provide a link to this website on the same page as the article.http://www.ukapologetics.net/tithe.htm

I thank the author for speaking out, the need to get back to Christ centered  body is vital that faithful love must reveal even when a nation falls into deep decline. People defend things even if they are wrong it makes  for the absence of having checked things out easy to believe misinformation of the bulk of the population does so. 

Giving from love.
The idea of charity and love  do not come without discernment and  as they do with love Jesus do not cast your perils be fore the swine. Philp 1;9  love knows what it's doing... and where to get some answers, it's not oblivious God is spirit and he teaches his people providing they are listening to him.

2 Corinth three is people in touch it's not a paper only world any longer, called living faith which experiences God. Jesus is the only way plus nothing. Get to know him.

NW

Jesus is the way!




As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it, 'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'.

Romans one,  God says "I will turn them over", destruction comes with great fury.. No freebies in his wrath.  Lord have mercy..

NW


Wednesday, October 9, 2013

Thanks for the article

Moving Toward Maturity (March 16, 2003)
Last July a Champaign mother stirred up a great deal of controversy when it was discovered that she was still nursing her eight year-old son.  When interviewed on "Good Morning America" the mother said, "Kyle is my only son and he's very important to me and he's going to be allowed to nurse until he decides to finish weaning himself."  After the show aired the State of Illinois pressed charges, the boy was put in temporary foster care, and the mother was subjected to counseling and evaluations.  Despite all she went through, at last report the mother was still nursing the boy on occasion and passionately defending the practice!
Why was there such an uproar over a mother nursing her eight year-old son?  The answer is obvious.  We instinctively believe that at some point children must move beyond milk, Gerber food products, diapers, and Fisher Price toys!  A child must grow to eat solid foods and to become less dependent on mom.  In our culture refusing to move beyond infancy is virtually a crime!
Some Christians never mature. 
I appreciate the Amy Grant song you just heard titled "Fat Baby".  She exposes an outrageous problem.  The problem is that there are Christians who never move beyond infancy and toward maturity.  Christians who have been drinking out of baby bottles their entire lives.  Christians who cannot stomach much more than an occasional Sunday spiritual lunch.  Christians who have sampled the deeper, solid food, but who prefer milk instead.
Christians who know John 3:16, who tote around their King James Bible, who know all the books of the Bible, who have even knelt at the altar, and who weekly go through all the motions, but who are lacking any real spiritual center.  Christians who are baptized, sanctified, and redeemed by the blood, but whose daily devotions are stuck in the mud.  Christians who are alive and saved, but who turn their noses at doctrine, who rarely feed on anything substantive, and who spend their whole lives being momma's boys.
Talk about outrageous!  Outrageous is the fact that Christians can spend years, even decades in the Church, but never move beyond infancy.  Yet this sad fact rarely makes the headlines.  We don't talk about it.  There is an elephant in the room, but no one wants to talk about it!  Hebrews 5:11-14 (NIV) rebukes us.  "We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn.  In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again.  You need milk, not solid food!  Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.  But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil."
Notice how the writer of Hebrews describes the problem in Hebrews 5:11.  They were, "slow to learn".  Literally, the Greek text says that they were, "hard of hearing" or, "dull to hear."  And it wasn't that these Christians needed hearing aids.  Their ears were perfectly fine.  They weren't hearing impaired.  Their problem was that they were selectively listening to the counsel of God.  Year after year they kept wearing out the verses and pages of the Bible.  They kept regurgitating the same old worn cliches that once enriched their lives.  Their problem was that they kept eating, eating, and eating, but they never digested the word of God.  They attended Bible studies and classes, they listened to sermon after sermon, they tuned into Christian radio all day long, but never truly absorbed what they heard.
A few months ago Lara and I were talking about our female dog, Addie.  Lara joked that Addie seemed to become hard of hearing.  We would come home and instead of greeting us, Addie would stay downstairs on the couch, snoring away, oblivious to our arrival.  Or we would be going to bed and call out for Addie to come, but she wouldn't!  We finally got to the heart of the problem.  Addie doesn't have a hearing problem.  She has a selective hearing problem.  Her ears are fine.  She can hear the slightest crinkle of a potato chip bag.  She can hear the slightest bounce of a ball anywhere in the house.  From anywhere in the house she can detect the closet door (the closet which contains her leash) being opened.  But call her to get in her cage and sure enough, her hearing short-circuits. 
This is the problem the writer of Hebrews is driving at regarding the Hebrew Christians.  It isn't that we are hearing impaired.  Instead we selectively hear and obey what we want to hear and obey, nothing more and nothing less.  We prefer milk over solid foods because it is so much easier on our stomachs.  We are comfortable being saved, and we are content with being nursed along.  We are terrified at the thought that maybe it's time to grow into spiritual adulthood and start contributing to the nourishment of others instead of just feeding and sponging and demanding and nursing and consuming.
Still being fed.
This is the author of Hebrews second point.  He says, "In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again.  You need milk, not solid food!"  Let me amplify this verse.  The Greek text says, "By this time you ought (are indebted to be, owe it to be) teachers, but, you still need milk!"
The writer of Hebrews is lamenting all the squandered potential he sees in the Church.  He sees all these accomplished professionals in his midst.  People who had risen to prominence in their community, in their workplaces, and among their peers.  People who in their every day lives had taken enormous risks, had stretched themselves, had taken on challenges, and had demonstrated their ability.  But these were the same people who in their spiritual lives had remained comfortable, had squandered their potential, had remained idle and unproductive, and had wasted away opportunity after opportunity to grow.  They had refused to be challenged, to soar to new heights, to move on toward maturity, and to walk by faith.  They could have and should have been teachers, but they were still stuck in kindergarten, in elementary school, learning their spiritual ABC's!
I still remember my half-day kindergarten classes, do you?  The highlight of kindergarten was that every day just before noon, we'd march single file down the hallway to a refrigerator where we would line up to receive a small carton of milk and a freshly baked cookie.  It was the same every day.  Line up.  Get milk.  Get cookie.  That's all I remember!
But oh, how I loved those days!  That milk and cookie would make me feel so warm and full.  Life back then was so easy and uncomplicated.  My biggest challenge was learning to write my full name, Jonathan Edward Morrissette.  But I'm glad Im not in kindergarten anymore, aren't you?  I got bored singing the alphabet a long time ago, counting and drawing letters and learning to tie my shoes, and saying the names of the months in order.  I'm glad I moved on!  There is so much more to life than lining up at the refrigerator waiting for my daily milk and cookie!
Beyond spiritual kindergarten.
And I'll tell you something else.  I'm glad I'm not in spiritual kindergarten anymore.  I enjoyed those first steps of faith, learning how to read the Bible, how to pray, how to memorize scripture, and how to understand basic Christian doctrines.  I sometimes think about those days when I could go to church and not worry about having a lesson prepared, or a sermon, or having an answer to a question, or being concerned how someone else was doing.  But I'm glad I've moved on from those days, and I don't mean that in a prideful or self-congratulatory way.  It's just that there is so much more beyond the elementary teachings and more to life than waiting for spiritual milk and cookies.
The writer of Hebrews is telling us rather candidly I think, that we are long overdue.  Enough time has elapsed that we should all be teachers, but as it is, some of us are still waiting in line to get a milk mustache and to feel warm and full.  When will some of us ever get around to moving toward maturity?  That is the concern of the author of Hebrews and of every reasonable Christian.
The author of Hebrews is concerned that we move beyond milk and to put it bluntly, that we grow up.  He's saying that it's time we develop a taste for steak.  It's time that we develop a voracious appetite and feast on the deeper things of Christ and his kingdom.  Hebrews 6:1-3 (NIV) says, "Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.  And God permitting, we will do so."
Beyond spiritual milk.
Let's pause here for a moment and rehash some of what we have been talking about.  The problem is not that the author of Hebrews is a dull or boring teacher, because this has always been a common complaint Christians make of their teachers.  The problem is that the Hebrew Christians were dull hearers.  They were slothful.  They were lazy.  They were apathetic about the deeper things of Christ.  They selectively listened and did not fully obey the whole counsel of God.  As a result, their spiritual development was stunted.  They were stuck on milk!  Their immaturity was evidenced by their inability to share spiritual truth with others.  They had been Christians long enough to be able to share God's truth, but they were again in need of learning the basics concerning the Christian life.
Have you ever stopped to consider what milk is?  Warren Wiersbe comments that milk is predigested food.  As such milk is especially suited to babies and those who are sick or to those who do not have teeth!  A sign of spiritual immaturity is Christians who need everything predigested.  The mark of spiritual immaturity is Christians whose first question when they come to church is, "Got milk?"
Spiritual immaturity is Christians who always need someone to read and interpret the Bible for them.  It's parents who are unable to teach their children about Jesus.  It's church leaders who do not know how to share the gospel or cultivate deeper life in other Christians.  It's older men and older women who have never taken it upon themselves to mentor younger men and younger women in the faith.  It is Christians who have to be entertained with music and drama and instruments and special lighting and sound effects and powerpoint and all the frills in order to get an ounce of enlightenment.
Spiritual immaturity is Christians who are most concerned about staying comfortable, singing the same songs, quoting the same Bible verses, following the same liturgy, and having everything their way.  These folks are never looking beyond themselves at the opportunities to disciple young people and young families which are abounding in their midst.
The writer of Hebrews is raising the bar for church leaders, for parents, and for Christians.  There is a time when every Christian must crave pure spiritual milk.  Just as everyone has to come into this world as a baby, so everyone has to be born into God's kingdom as a baby.  But it is tragic when a baby doesn't move on to maturity.  As Wiersbe says, "No matter how much parents and grandparents love to hold and cuddle a baby, it is their great desire that the baby grow up and enjoy a full life as a mature adult.  God has the same desire for his children.  God wants us moving beyond infancy into maturity."
Marks of true maturity. 
We're going to move on to cover the additional verses in Hebrews, but let me briefly sketch out what spiritual maturity looks like and then you can judge whether you are moving toward maturity.
First, a mature Christian is unshakably devoted to Jesus Christ.
This describes a disciple's relationship to God's only Son.  A mature Christian is one who has mastered the elementary teachings about Christ, has developed deep convictions concerning the identity of Jesus Christ, and is vitally connected to Jesus Christ through prayer, daily devotions, scripture memorization, Bible reading, meditation, fasting, and Bible study.  In other words, this is someone who has an insatiable desire to know Christ and search out the deeper things of God.  This is a person who isn't content with what he already knows, but is actively growing and pursuing Christ, even into old age.
Second, a mature Christian is tirelessly committed to developing other Christians.
This describes a disciple's relationship to God's family, the Church.  A mature Christian is one who has become accountable to other Christians for his own growth, but who is lovingly holding others accountable for their growth.  It is a parent, a mature Christian who is actively discipling his or her children.  It is a Church leader, a mature Christian who is actively mentoring an upcoming leader.  It is an older man or woman, a mature Christian who is actively investing in the lives of someone younger in the faith.  It is an older brother, or sister, or student, or whatever.  It's the same.  A mature Christian is patiently encouraging and investing in the growth of others.
Third, a mature Christian is consistently modeling Christ's lifestyle. 
This describes a disciple's relationship to God's Holy Spirit.  I know it is easy for younger people to beat up on their parents, for parents to beat up on church leaders, or for Christians to beat up on pastors.  It is easy and tempting for us to question the spiritual maturity of others.  But a mature Christian is not someone who is perfect in everything he or she does.  A maturing Christian is someone who is becoming increasingly consistent day after day as God's Holy Spirit transforms him or her from the inside out.  The question is, are you being transformed?  Are you becoming more like Christ?  Are you yielding to the leadership of the Spirit of God?  Are you obeying your conscience?  Are you a doer of the word and not merely a hearer?
Last, a mature Christian is intentionally multiplying new life in the world.
This describes a disciple's relationship to God's world.  Hebrews 5:12 mentioned that we ought to be teachers.  I pointed out that a more accurate translation is that we are indebted to be teachers.  A sign of spiritual maturity is taking the new life we have received in Christ, and then sharing it with the world God loves.  It's taking those tell, invite, pray cards seriously and inviting people to come and see Jesus Christ.  It is inviting as many friends and family members as possible to our church on Friend Day and Easter so that they can hear the gospel and know Jesus Christ.
There is so much more to spiritual life than mere infancy.  God wants to mature us and to accomplish great things through us for his glory.  He doesn't want us to spend our entire lives lining up for milk.  He wants us to be teachers and disciplemakers who make a difference.  But it comes down to one thing.  Are you listening?
Are you hearing God's call?  Or are you selectively hard of hearing or dull of hearing?

Thursday, October 3, 2013

Those tough questions/ 23 million are asking?.

http://www.inthebeginning.com/books/ecc.htm#Office Thansk to the writers of this article.Narrowway is small ministry dedicated to the truth of those vital directives.

Your question

Obey

Now, let us look deeper into the damage done by the King James translators in promoting a ruling class among the ekklesia. Hebrews 13:17 is another verse that seems to be loaded in the favor of those who would rule over the saints.

The English words rule and ruler, in a Christian context, can only rightly refer to Christ. He is our sovereign, our king and ruler. He is our Lord! Those among us who are so impudent and deluded that they can refer to themselves as rulers should blush. Ruler does not roll well off the Christian tongue. Even the most dictatorial among us intuitively knows that the idea of ruling over others stands in stark antithesis to the example and teachings of the serving Messiah.

With this in mind, let us look at Hebrews 13:17.

"Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you." (Hebrews 13:17).
Note: The word over is not in the original Greek, but was added, so we should dismiss it and all that it implies. The King James scholars translated key words in this passage with supposed English equivalents that bear much more autocratic overtones than did the Greek.



 I think it;s important to recall what paul said to test whet you hear to see if it true or not...

Referring to this Dr. Norman Park wrote:
"These writers made short shrift of the claim that elders have the authority to 'rule.' They knew the history of the 1611 version and the determination of King James to confer on both bishop and king the divine right to rule: 'No bishop, no king.' Hence his demand that the Greek word proistmi be rendered 'rule,' though it actually carried no connotation of authority, power, or governance. It merely meant that elders should be 'foremost' in zeal, knowledge, quality of life, and concern for the welfare of the church - a quality which rightfully should be embodied in all saints. In a very real sense, then, 'ruling' was not the preserve of the few, but the duty of all." (Dr. Norman Park "It Shall Not Be So Among You")



 What is this thing called "the church"?
Note at the outset that there is no biblical justification for the institutionalized version of Christianity that now covers the globe. In fact, there is no pattern in the scripture for setting up a church institution of any kind.

The model for the current church is a mixture borrowed from the governmental style of the kings of the Gentiles and the corporate structures of today's business world. It provides the mechanism for controlling the people and keeping them submissive to the institution and its clergy/kings/CEO's. Today, the church infrastructure provides these benefactors with employment and power. They are paid for their services just like the employees of any other business or organization. With one exception: they often set their own salaries. This is what T. Austin Sparks called "the present disorder."

We should note here that Paul referred to these rudimentary principles of religion as "the world."

"But far be it from me to boast save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [the] world is crucified to me, and I to the world. For [in Christ Jesus] neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision; but new creation." (Galatians 6:14-15)
The word "world" here is a translation of a Greek word kosmos, which means a system. In context, Paul was speaking of the religious system at that time. We are not being trite when we say, Christianity is NOT a system, it is not of the kosmos/world. Christianity is a person and that person is Christ! Although Judaism and the law originated with God, in the hands of the enemy it became a system used to usurp and distract mankind from God's eternal purpose in Christ and was even used to crucify the very Offspring of God Himself. The same is true of the Christian system where the fruit of living union with Christ, the Vine, has been supplanted by a codified and systematized "Christianity." This is the sad world to which all true believers are DEAD. For they are not preoccupied with principles or Christian ethics but are new creations living by the spirit of life in Christ Jesus.



Narrowway  is ajorney of truthand spirit love to all  I thank the authors for being honest in their effort to deal with truth. God sees the intent of ther heart.

Tuesday, October 1, 2013

personal journey, not the same anymore.

O Lord, I have heard a good word inviting me to look away to Thee and be satisfied. My heart longs to respond, but sin has clouded my vision till I see Thee but dimly. Be pleased to cleanse me in Thine own precious blood, and make me inwardly pure, so that I may with unveiled eyes gaze upon Thee all the days of my earthly pilgrimage. Then shall I be prepared to behold Thee in full splendor in the day when Thou shalt appear to be glorified in Thy saints and admired in all them that believe. True faith is never found alone; it is always accompanied by expectation. The man who believes the promises of God expects to see them fulfilled. Where there is no expectation there is no faith. A man may study because his brain is hungry for knowledge, even Bible knowledge. But he prays because his soul is hungry for God." Leonard Ravenhill "Resolved: that all men should live for the glory of God. Resolved second: That whether others do or not, I will."- Jonathan Edwards Let us not glide through this world and then slip quietly into heaven, without having blown the trumpet loud and long for our Redeemer, Jesus Christ. Let us see to it that the devil will hold a thanksgiving service in hell, when he gets the news of our departure from the field of battle. C. T. Studd.