Saturday, October 12, 2013

Tithing ?.



Greetings a brief note on Cyprian,,, where the tithe came from?, in my own research the Cyprian was the one who brought in the practice, Angus and Walker there was no such thing under the ecclesia it never provided a guaranteed income life for those in ministry . Matter in fact Angus in his research disposes of the mysteries practices used as were added  in  in reaction to the Gnostics... And the ecclesiastic over lords later used by King James Bible were translated to get as far away from the priest hood of the believers as possible to  over to the few. The very terms were challenged and led to the burning of Tyndale, "I wonder how long do think we will remain dismissing those facts? is it wrong to aid those serving no...
 it was wrong to use false practice to  do so no matter leaving out the spirit by human mandate.
The Author Angus 1910 dives in the strange forms and struggles which  took place between the mysteries and impact into Christianity . Magic was strong at that time, not much different today.,  where the word and practice of esoteric world came out of. Merges into direct conflict and influence into the early Christian body as it does to today in it's blended states.

My own personal .

Englshmans's  discussion,

The early Church - prior to Constantine - DID NOT uphold tithing, OT [practice, Tithing is something which we certainly find in the Old Testament since the Israelites were plainly required to tithe. The original Levitical system was terribly legalistic of course, but a legalistic system is precisely what we are discussing here! If one starts to consider the complexities of the various kinds of animal sacrifices which were required under this system, one wonders how the whole Levitical system did not entirely break down under a sea of confusion!

Modernism restored tithing, as we have seen, bears little semblance to the biblical model which was part of the legal code of ancient Israel. That law - within a simple and agrarian society - was concerned with the needs of the poor. Modern tithing, however, is mainly concerned with funding local church congregations in a society - or societies - which usually bear little or no resemblance to the Israel of Leviticus. Therefore those who strongly promote tithing realize that there is little point in quoting Old Testament Scriptures.

So attempts are sometimes made to appeal to the very few New Testament Scriptures in which tithing gets a mention. Unfortunately these people are in serious trouble before they even start. Why? Because they know that New Testament premier writer and theologian, the Apostle Paul, is completely silent on the subject, whereas these people would dearly love to have a Scripture in which he enthusiastically backs it!
In all honesty, I have to say that NOT A SINGLE NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE SUPPORTS TITHING AS SOMETHING WHICH CHRISTIANS SHOULD BE PRACTISING IN OUR DAY! We might as well say that straight away.

They gave in the ministry as part of servitude  is the direction it all took.I fear that most Christians in the West don't really grasp how much some have to struggle even to survive in many impoverished parts of the world. I am reminded of the words of Dr Paul Brand, a missionary surgeon:
"...From the perspective of a missionary who spent eighteen years in one of the poorest countries on earth, the contrasts in resources are astonishingly large. At Vellore we treated leprosy patients on three dollars per patient per year; yet we turned many away for lack of funds. Then we came to America where some churches were heatedly discussing their million-dollar gymnasiums...and sponsoring seminars on tax shelters for members to conserve their accumulated wealth." (p60, 'Fearfully and Wonderfully Made,' 1980 paperback, Philip Yancey and Dr Paul Brand. Zondervan, Grand Rapids).



 Tithing: (from Old English teogothian, 'tenth'), a custom dating back to Old Testament times and adopted by the Christian church whereby lay people contributed a 10th of their income for religious purposes, often under ecclesiastical or legal obligation. The money (or its equivalent in crops, farm stock, etc.) was used to support the clergy, maintain churches, and assist the poor. Tithing was also a prime source of subsidy for the construction of many magnificent cathedrals in Europe.
Despite serious resistance, tithing became obligatory as Christianity spread across Europe. It was enjoined by ecclesiastical law from the 6th century and enforced in Europe by secular law from the 8th century. In England in the 10th century, payment was made obligatory under ecclesiastical penalties by Edmund I and under temporal penalties by Edgar. In the 14th century Pope Gregory VII, in an effort to control abuses, outlawed lay ownership of tithes.


 

 During the 16th-century Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther approved in general of paying tithes to the temporal sovereign, and the imposition of tithes continued for the benefit of Protestant as well as Roman Catholic churches. Gradually, however, opposition grew. Tithes were repealed in France during the Revolution (1789), without compensation to tithe holders. Other countries abolished certain kinds of tithes and indemnified the holders. By 1887 the tithe had been brought to an end in Italy. It was abolished in Ireland at the disestablishment of the Anglican church in 1871, and it
gradually died out in the Church of Scotland. In England in 1836, the tithe was commuted for a rent charge depending on the price of grain, and in 1936 the tithe rent charges were abolished. New methods of taxation were developed in those countries that provided financial support of the church out of government funds. Remnants of the tithing system do exist, however, in certain Protestant European countries. In Germany, for example, citizens must pay a church tax unless they formally renounce membership in a church.

Tithe was never a legal requirement in the United States. Members of certain churches, however, including the Latter-day Saints and Seventh-day Adventists, are required to tithe, and some Christians in other churches do so voluntarily. The Eastern Orthodox churches never accepted the idea of tithes, and Orthodox church members have never paid them.


("tithe." Encyclopedia Britannica. 2006. Encyclopedia Britannica Premium Service. 4 June 2006.© This article is Copyright Robin A. Brace 2002. If you want it on your own website please do so but please also do the honorable thing and correctly quote the writer and state where the article comes from. You are also free to use 3 or 4 quotes from this article, but again, the writer's name should be quoted and you should provide a link to this website on the same page as the article.http://www.ukapologetics.net/tithe.htm

I thank the author for speaking out, the need to get back to Christ centered  body is vital that faithful love must reveal even when a nation falls into deep decline. People defend things even if they are wrong it makes  for the absence of having checked things out easy to believe misinformation of the bulk of the population does so. 

Giving from love.
The idea of charity and love  do not come without discernment and  as they do with love Jesus do not cast your perils be fore the swine. Philp 1;9  love knows what it's doing... and where to get some answers, it's not oblivious God is spirit and he teaches his people providing they are listening to him.

2 Corinth three is people in touch it's not a paper only world any longer, called living faith which experiences God. Jesus is the only way plus nothing. Get to know him.

NW

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