Friday, December 26, 2014

How it will be!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoYulw3CF6k

 In a world drenched  in it's blindness,   grace came and opened the way home... Restoring friendship which will carry one through eternity....

NW

Monday, December 22, 2014

Back to the real faith



The life in Acts was not based on human  empire building,  but a  faith  built in a life with Jesus Christ 1 Corinth 1-4, I do not believe it's impossible since God loves the impossible,  he provides the hope of new life inspirit led manner. Free to his people if they unhook themselves from the external attractions. Thanks, serving one another in spirit of love and wisdom.
 

Paul said was true."Acts 17:11 It's less honorable to gullibly accept whatever is taught, even if such teachings happen to be correct. Even Jesus himself said, "If I don’t do the works of my Father, don’t believe me." John 10:37  He doesn't want gullible type of followers. Those he describes in the parable of the sower, "those who are sown on the rocky places, who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with joy. They have no root in themselves, but are short-lived."

Mark 4:16,17 Thus we could say that institutionalism tends towards producing unrooted Christians - those who have a faith which is only on the surface. Not that they may not have a deeply rooted faith in the institution. But having a deeply rooted faith in Christ is quite a different thing. The lack of discernment comes with it. Often resulting in assumed knowledge without any clear understanding.

 The emphasis of institutional teachings.

Institution's focus
  • forms rather than function
  • outward appearance rather than inward nature
  • letter rather than the spirit
  • law or regulations rather than grace and purpose.
  • human dogma rather than Biblical truth.
  • Systems over a relationship.
  • The lack of discernment.

Money also corrupts as Paul writes, "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil." 1Tim 6:10 Thus he avoided getting paid for ministry and advised the Ephesian elders also, saying, "I coveted no one’s silver, or gold, or clothing.  You yourselves know that these hands ministered to my necessities, and to those who were with me.  In all things I gave you an example, that so laboring you ought to help the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’" Acts 20:33-35 Professional Ministers have the right to get paid for ministry. But in 1Cor 9 Paul advocates freely giving up that right so as to minister more effectively.

 Money is not bad per-se it is the love of it like anything else it's greed of something which in turn promotes twisting  to sustain it's existence. Freedom can only come within a  living active relationship with Christ.

Monday, December 15, 2014

No Retrograding, moving forward.

CHAPTER 6
Heb 6:1-14. Warning against Retrograding, Which Soon Leads to Apostasy; Encouragement to Steadfastness from God's Faithfulness to His Word and Oath.
1. Therefore—Wherefore: seeing that ye ought not now to be still "babes" (Heb 5:11-14).
leaving—getting further forward than the elementary "principles." "As in building a house one must never leave the foundation: yet to be always laboring in 'laying the foundation' would be ridiculous" [Calvin].
the principles of the doctrine—Greek, "the word of the beginning," that is, the discussion of the "first principles of Christianity (Heb 5:12).
let us go on—Greek, "let us be borne forward," or "bear ourselves forward"; implying active exertion: press on. Paul, in teaching, here classifies himself with the Hebrew readers, or (as they ought to be) learners, and says, Let us together press forward.
perfection—the matured knowledge of those who are "of full age" (Heb 5:14) in Christian attainments.
foundation of—that is, consisting in "repentance."
repentance from dead works—namely, not springing from the vital principle of faith and love toward God, and so counted, like their doer, dead before God.

This repentance from dead works is therefore paired with "faith toward God." The three pairs of truths enumerated are designedly such as Jewish believers might in some degree have known from the Old Testament, but had been taught more clearly when they became Christians.

This accounts for the omission of distinct specification of some essential first principle of Christian truth. Hence, too, he mentions "faith toward God," and not explicitly faith toward Christ (though of course included). Repentance and faith were the first principles taught under the Gospel.

Friday, December 12, 2014

Friday, December 5, 2014

A wareness

Characteristics of Satan

1. Created by God, but not equal to God. (Proverbs 16:4)

2. Defies God and despises truth. (John 8:44)

3. Was given limited power. (Job 1:8-12)

4. Commands a hierarchy of demons. (Eph. 6:10-12)
5. Masquerades as "an angel of light." (2 Cor. 11:14-15)
6. Plans to steal, kill and destroy. (John 10:10)

7. Rules the masses outside God’s protection. (Eph. 2:1-3)
8. Keeps seeking an "opportune time" to tempt us. (Luke 4:13)
9. Tries to hide the actual truth about our God. (2 Cor. 4:3-4)
10. Offers counterfeit promises he can't fulfill. (Gen. 3:4-5)
11. Twists Scriptures to fit his purposes. (Gen. 3:1-5)
12. Will suffer the fate he deserves. (Revelation 20:10)
 
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary, the devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.” 1 Peter 5:8
 

One path only

Spiritual Warfare ? what's that?

"O our God... we have no power against this great multitude that is coming against us; nor do we know what to do, but our eyes are upon You." (2 Chronicles 20:12)
 
Sadly the state is all to real by all means God is central, but knowing him  is often replaced self does and lists of endless  duties instead of the awareness of God in us.
 
 
NW
 
 
 

Thursday, December 4, 2014

Back to JESUS/ subversion of a real relationship with Christ lost in philosphy.

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Christianity is NOT Religion series


   In a previous study we sought to explain that Christianity is not a religion, despite the fact that the misnomer of "Christian religion" does exist today. The failure to differentiate between Christianity and religion has created much confusion and obfuscation in the thinking of both Christians and non-Christians. It has become necessary to explain that the Christian religion, sometimes referred to as "Christendom," is the organized institutional entity that many also mistakenly refer to as the "Church." That is why Soren Kierkegaard wrote a book entitled Attack on Christendom, and explained that
"Christendom is an effort of the human race to go back to walking on all fours, to get rid of Christianity, to do it knavishly under the pretext that this is Christianity, claiming that it is Christianity perfected.1
The Christianity of Christendom...takes away from Christianity the offense, the paradox, etc., and instead of that introduces probability, the plainly comprehensible. That is, it transforms Christianity into something entirely different from what it is in the New Testament, yea, into exactly the opposite; and this is the Christianity of Christendom, of us men."2
   Christian religion is the sociological movement that is comprised of formulated belief-systems and morality patterns, and is structured into hierarchical political organizations. Christianity, on the other hand, is the vital dynamic of the Spirit of Christ in those who are receptive to Him by faith. A Christian is a "Christ-one," identified in spiritual union with Jesus Christ, and Christianity is "Christ-in-you-ity" (cf. Col. 1:27; II Cor. 13:5), as the Spirit of Christ indwells the spirit of each Christian individual (Rom. 8:9).
   Our explanations are further complicated when we recognize that the English word "Christianity" has as its equivalent in the French language, the word "christianisme." This would tend to imply that Christianity is some form of philosophical ...ism. Such is not the case. Christianity is not an ...ism! Jacques Ellul, a French writer, wrote a book entitled La Subversion du Christianisme. It was later translated into English as The Subversion of Christianity,3 but this was misleading to some English readers who did not realize the double entendre of the title, and thus thought that Ellul was engaged in Christian-bashing. God forbid, for Ellul was an extremely astute Christian who did, indeed, critically expose Christian religion, but admirably expounded the reality of Christianity in the living Lord Jesus Christ. In fact, it was Jacques Ellul who, in the aforementioned book, sought to explain that Christianity is not an ...ism, and thus provided the germinal idea for this chapter. It will be instructive to quote what he wrote, and allow it to serve as a springboard for our further elucidation.
"A word ending in 'ism' denotes an ideological or doctrinal trend deriving from a philosophy. Thus we have positivism, socialism, republicanism, spiritualism, idealism, materialism, etc. None of these words, however, denotes the philosophy itself. In fact, it might be directly opposed to it. Marx and Kierkegaard both tried to prevent their thinking from being reduced to an ideological mechanism. But they could not stop their successors from freezing their living thought into one (or many) systems, and in this way an ideology arose. Even Sartre accepts the term existentialism without seeing how it perverts what he is saying. The moment the mutation takes place from existential thinking to existentialism, a living stream is transformed into a more or less regulated and stagnant irrigation channel, and as the thought moves further and further away from the source it becomes banal and familiar.

The suffix 'ism' injects something new into a well-marked and well-defined complex. As originality is eliminated and replaced by commonplaces, the life and thought lose their radical and coherent character. The well-defined complex is now vague and fluid. Passages are dug out in all directions. From the point of departure various possibilities open up for exploitation, and they are in fact utilized. There thus comes into being a curious complex formed of many tendencies, often contradictory but all covered by the relevant 'ism.' In a final loosening of the original knot of life and thought, which are generally united in the creator and his immediate disciples, the 'ism' sometimes takes the form of a practical sociological trend, a type of organization or mass movement, such as socialism, communism, royalism, or republicanism.

At this point there is an even greater distance between the rock of the first life and thought and the sandy wastes that now engulf it. Marxism and what has been derived from it for a whole century have nothing in common. It is the same whenever an 'ism' is made in the name of some creator, such as Thomism, Lutheranism, or Rousseauism. It seems that in each case the deviation and subversion mentioned are typical of the Western world. We need not go into that here. The only point is that the 'ism' aspect of Christianity is not peculiar to it. Similar results occur in many other cases. Nevertheless, the perversion or subversion here is much more vast and aberrant and incomprehensible than any of the others."4
   Ellul is correct in asserting that the attempted reduction of Christianity into an ...ism is a greater perversion than any other. The living reality of the divine life of Jesus Christ which constitutes Christianity, cannot be killed and compressed into a casket of an ideological construct. The theories and concepts of man can, and are, boiled down into ...isms, but how can the ontological dynamic of the infinite Living God be compressed into a humanly manageable package of thought? Impossible, except it be decimated and destroyed, having been reduced to something that no longer represents the reality of the expression of God in Jesus Christ.
The Formulating of ...isms

   It is the natural propensity of man to attempt to get everything figured out with finite reasoning. This is particularly true of man in Western civilization, following in the footsteps of Aristotelian reasoning, and seeking to explain all phenomena in the linear logic of direct cause and effect. Man wants to turn his observations into syllogisms and rational laws based on deductive inferences and inductive persuasion.
   The philosophers and the theologians, in particular, have served as thought-mechanics to ratchet and wrench human thought into ideological constructs. They are not content to allow the conceptual-artists of poetry and drama and music to express ideas in abstraction. The logicians can allow for no paradoxes or antinomies which are against the law of reason. Their minds short-circuit whenever there are loose-ends of thought that cannot be tied-down into an outline of reasonable categories. Contrary to Eastern thinkers who are more prone to accept a both-and explanation rather than a polarized either-or explanation, the Western thinkers have a difficult time accepting the balance of a dialectic tension. Western philosophy and theology has thus tended to analyze, categorize, compartmentalize and systematize their thought into tightly formulated structures, propagated in academic disciplines such as systematic or dogmatic theology. They have a lust for understanding and certainty that cannot be satiated until they have conceived, created and constructed an ideological ...ism.

   Behind these narrow classifications of rational explanation is the quest to cast all thought into an explicable entity. They seem to think that all phenomena must be made conceptually comprehensible and coherent. It must be reduced and consolidated into an understandable unit, which can then be labeled with an ...ism. By this process of reductionism men have attempted to box up and package human thought, to nail it down in air-tight compartments, which can then be stereotyped and "pegged." Little do they seem to realize that air-tight compartments are stale, stagnant and static, chambers of death, tombs of tautology.
   When the living reality and expression of the being and activity of the eternal, infinite God in His Son, Jesus Christ, is subjected to this simplification and summarization of rational explanation, He is completely diminished and transposed into a conceptual ...ism that in no way explains the divine reality of Christianity. God cannot be put in a box! When men attempt to do so, they have only devised an idea of God that is no larger than their cranial cavity, and who would want a god that small? Yet, evidencing the deification of their own human reason, men have continued since the Fall to attempt to reduce God to a unit of thought. In doing so they have accepted the original temptation they that can "be like God," for they can then take the religious formulation of thought they have created in their minds, manipulate it in their own interest, and control the collective society of people thereby. Thus it is that religionism attempts to "play God" in the lives of people, and propagates a particular belief-system that becomes a distinctive ...ism of a sociological movement.
Christian Religion and its ...isms

   Many are the ...isms that have formed in the context of Christian religion over the centuries, and which serve as a denial of the divine reality of Christianity. Every such ...ism serves only as a pathetic diminishment of the divine display of Christ's life in Christians. They also serve as bunkers behind which religionists can hide in order to participate in their divisive positioning and posturing, instead of focusing together and being unified in the person and work of Jesus Christ.
   These ...isms take different forms, so we shall consider them in five categories (which is certainly not an attempt to create an ...ism out of ...isms!). As these are very fluid, they can easily overlap as they flow into one another.
(1) ...isms of ideological theories. As previously noted, many ...isms are formed as ideological constructs of thought. One of the earliest ...isms confronted by nascent Christianity was that of Greek gnosticism, with its emphasis on the necessity of having a special knowledge of spiritual mysteries in order to advance into spiritual elitism. Though the early church rejected this philosophy, they were somewhat unaware of the extent to which the dualism of Hellenism and Platonism was affecting Christian thought. This was evidenced in an arid intellectualism and rationalism, that later led to scholasticism. The theologism of doctrinalism and creedalism soon became pervasive. Christian religion became the advocacy of a belief-system, assented to by easy-believism.

     This remains the focus of ideological fundamentalism and evangelicalism, defending their epistemological position with the dogmatism of absolutism, often based on a biblicism and literalism borrowed from Judaism.
(2) ...isms of conceptual trends. Throughout the history of the Christian religion there have been philosophical and theological trends of thought that influenced the ideological theories. Behind gnosticism there were concepts of mysticism and spiritualism, which have arisen over and over again in Christian religion. There has always been the conceptual dichotomy between the historicism which fosters conservatism and traditionalism, versus the liberalism that advocates progressivism and revolutionism. In the midst of such there has always been an expectancy of futurism, often taking variant forms of apocalypticism or millennialism, with trends toward triumphalism or pessimism. As the Christian religion adapted to its surroundings in culturalism, it often adopted new tendencies by eclecticism or syncretism. An historical review of the absorption of idealism, empiricism, pragmatism, and existentialism (just to name a few) will document the tendency to borrow the conceptual trends of humanism.
(3) ...isms of behavioral practices. The rapid rate of decline wherein the Christian religion degenerated into the religionism of moralism and ethicism is astounding. How soon they abandoned reliance upon the dynamic grace of God for Christian behavior. For the most part they lapsed into the legalism of the old Pharisaism, but some opted for the hedonism of libertinism where "anything goes!". Subsequent emphases on behavioral practices included pietism, quietism, and the suppressionism of fleshly tendencies. On a collective level there have been calls for social activism, as well as pressured appeals to participate in evangelism and revivalism.
(4) ...isms of procedural patterns. In order to pass on the explanations of their belief-system, Christian religion instituted catechism instruction. Those who were the teachers participated in the authoritarianism of clericalism, and its eventual professionalism. The inevitable politicism of the church leadership resulted in hierarchicalism and papalism. As they conducted the public gatherings of the Christian religion, these same leaders encouraged ceremonialism and formalism through ritualism and liturgism. Sacramentalism further tied the participants to the procedural patterns of the priests. Though there were some Christians who attempted to escape all worldliness through asceticism or monasticism, the vast majority accepted the proceduralisms of what would later take the forms of methodism, congregationalism, and the like.
(5) ...isms of sociological movements. As the theories, trends, practices and procedures were implemented, the collectivism of a sociological movement took place. What was to have been the collective expression of Christianity in the Church, now took the form of ecclesiasticism and institutionalism. Though the universality of Catholicism held this together in a singular sociological institution for many centuries, it was eventually severed by Protestantism, which eventually splintered into sectarianism and a diverse denominationalism, which has never unified despite the attempts of ecumenism. Theological groupings were often identified by the ideology of a particular personage, such as Augustinianism, Thomism, Lutheranism, Calvinism, Arminianism, Wesleyanism, etc. Other groups are identified by ethnicity, ex. Anglicanism, or by polity, ex. Presbyterianism.
   This brief review of religious ...isms is by no means exhaustive, and could surely be multiplied many times with other examples and other categories. The intent is solely to expose the propensity to accumulate ...isms in the Christian religion.
Christianity is not an ...ism

   All ...isms are antithetical to Christianity, and are necessarily a reductionism of the spiritual reality that is Christianity. All ...isms are an attempt to encapsulate or encompass Christianity into an entity (be it ideological, conceptual, behavioral, procedural or sociological) that can in no wise contain the supernatural activity of the Living God. The being and activity of the God of the universe will never be confined in a bottle or box of man's making and understanding.

   Christianity is alive with the living expression of the life of the risen Lord Jesus. Christianity is the ontological dynamic of Jesus who is "alive and well" in Christians today, just as in every generation since Pentecost. He cannot be bound up in the religion of ideology, behavior, procedures or institutions. He is free to express His divinity in our humanity!

   Whereas ...isms are fixed and unchanging in their parameters, having been carefully clarified and defined, the life of Jesus Christ expressed in Christians is spontaneous, unique and creative; ever-changing and surprising ­ never capable of being stereotyped and regulated. The only pattern is the consistency of the immutable character of Christ in the midst of the multitudinous expressions of His life in Christian behavior.

   Collectively, His life is expressed in the ecclesia of the Body of Christ, the Church (Eph. 1:22,23; Col. 1:18,24). Never intended to be an organizational institution, the Church is a living spiritual organism wherein the life of Jesus Christ is expressed interactively and socially in loving interpersonal relationships. As the character of Christ's "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,... (Gal. 5:22,23) is manifested toward one another in Christian relationships, Christianity becomes the restoration of man, both in individual behavior and in collective community.
Christianity is not an ...ism! Christianity is Christ!

Sunday, November 23, 2014

Being set free?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJvqmhGs1Y8

 Hope if your lost  and fed up with all the mess we live in, and seek freedom perhaps this massage  will begin the huge  changes you need love to those and love to his love to those he may pull  out of the deeper darkness, praying for you to come free and live a real life of joy. To be set free and that life may abound in a new way without the horrors which hold you captive.

God for gives sin all of us, and will be build your life...
NW

Thursday, November 13, 2014

Bottom line- faith



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9w4Lx3Prt0 says it all,  we;re an ecclesai all faith here, please, God is not found in human religion,   he  is found in a relationship,

NW

Tuesday, November 11, 2014

I can not change who I have become and going to in Jesus Christ!

As T. Austin Sparks once wrote: "It is a difficult, costly way, but I can not have revelation, and go on in revelation, and at the same time compromise over details and have things at any point other than exactly as my Lord wants them. I am not governed by diplomacy or policy or public opinion. I am governed by what my Lord has said in my heart by revelation as to His purpose."

2 Cor. 5:15 says: "And He died for all, that they who live SHOULD NO LONGER LIVE FOR THEMSELVES, BUT FOR HIM WHO DIED AND ROSE AGAIN ON THEIR BEHALF." Here you see a gospel that is hardly preached anywhere! If you were to take the time to read the words in red I think you would quickly find a gospel that has been all but lost to the "free world." You would also soon see that Jesus did not make it easy to follow Him...He said, in so many words; "count the cost;"

Luke 14:26-33 says: "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate, (Love less), his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after Me cannot by My disciple. For which one of you, when he wants to build a tower, does not first sit down and calculate the cost, to see if he has enough to complete it?

Otherwise, when he has laid down the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who observe it begin to ridicule him, saying, 'this man began to build and was unable to finish.' Or what King, when he sets out to meet another King in battle, will not first sit down and take counsel whether he is strong enough with ten thousand men to encounter the one coming against him with twenty thousand? Or else, while the other is still far away, he sends a delegation and asks terms of peace. So therefore, no one of you can be My disciple who does not give up all his own possessions."

Mat. 16:24-26 likewise says: "if anyone wishes to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever wishes to save his life shall loose it; but Whoever looses his life for My sake shall find it. For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

Monday, November 10, 2014

A step way form the politiclaly modified translations.

http://books.google.com/books?id=HhjzPnuBBB8C&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=KJ+3+IS+MORE+LITERAL&source=bl&ots=Gs9uj2JCBn&sig=yFiP5UI9sXmaxLYGSd3glB-XfUk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bONgVPmlHobIsATtoYFI&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=KJ%203%20IS%20MORE%20LITERAL&f=false

 We felt and enjoy the works of  Dr. green in an effort make the corrections to reduce the politically modified kjv. Tyndale desire was to remove the non scriptural words a and forms  fostered  out of the additional words to support their hold over the body.

NW

Wednesday, November 5, 2014

Real fellowship, simple and pure!

There is one main passage that deals with the priesthood of all believers. It is as follows: "You also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ … But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light" (1 Peter 20)'
















First Corinthians 2:4-5 states that the

Gospel is the "demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

That your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in

the power of God." Has the gospel changed with the death of

the apostles? Should our faith now be "in the wisdom of

men"? This question should come to mind  where so much philosophy has stepped in.Or, is the gospel still, as then, the demonstration of the Spirit and power, so that our faith is in the power of

God, and not in the wisdom of men? We believe the same God we have has not changed or retired and needs to go to Plato for advice. We hold all the body is able and needs to be every where and anywhere.


 1600 years of wondering needs to become more real than depending on man.

NW

 

WAKING UP IS HARD TO DO!


 
 thinking yet?????

Thursday, October 30, 2014

Insight...

Suffer hardship with me, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus.


No soldier in active service entangles himself in the affairs of everyday life, so that he may please the one who enlisted him as a soldier. (2 Timothy 2:3-4, NASB)

 The things we have to balance..




Love to all, praying for those lost in the dark cults, I know some of you have followed the sight saw it like  you to know there is hope in Christ, no frills here the truth narrowway is purely a relationship with our creator, simple, There is hope, freedom, in  pure grace, the condemnation can go away, and can sleep at night., again, praying for you as I do for all the others.
NW





















Wednesday, October 29, 2014

Now a word was secretly brought to me,

And my ear received a whisper of it,

In disquieting thoughts from the visions of the night,

When deep sleep falls on men,

Fear came upon me, and trembling,

Which made all my bones shake.

Then a spirit passed before my face;

The hair on my body stood up.

It stood still.

But I could not discern it;s appearance.
A form was before my eyes; there was silence Job 4;12-16.


For God may speak in one way, or in another,

Yet man does not perceive it.

In a dream, in a vision of the night,

When deep sleep comes upon men,

While slumbering on their beds,

Then he opens the ears of men,

And seals their instruction.

In order to turn man from his deed,

And conceal pride from man,

he keeps back his soul from the pit,

And his life from perishing by the sword Job 33;14-18


I would like to encourage those asking seeking to really think deeply one word at a time, get alone and ponder these deep truths. Yes,, God can save his way, dreams to Muslims, why not?, We allow him to speak for himself, no filter grids needed

I like thank one man way back in my early years after conversion , here were his words, "Franz- Read it 10 times, it helps us stop reading into it, and than somewhere latter on we start to really hear or listen.
I agree being able to listen should supersede good speakers seeing it;s more important to know what it is to know follow a person for his good speech that was the case Paul had to warn the body of early on.

Read Acts.This is for you Tom, what a wonderful brother and how truth in your every word has holden fast in my life all these years later, it has all come forward to being so.


Thanks enjoy .

may take hundreds of more years to know the differences.

So entrenched is its authority
and so stable are the religious habits of its
members that God could withdraw Himself
completely from it and it could run on for years on
its own momentum.” - A.W. Tozer

getting back to truth here,...


"You cannot achieve tomorrow's results with
yesterday's methods."

learning how to walk by faith not by sight..




Only one thing counts.

It is doubtful whether God can bless a man greatly until He has hurt him deeply.” Tozar

Dear Ms
Thanks for the question, real refining takes real is found in testing.
The Hurt has often severed one from self, largley unable to find a place to escape to amidst surprise and struggle.

We're placed in positions to have to stand or go through the coasrse of action in which the blessing comes latter or directly in the testing. Love is something that grows in use, Like faith, God does not give it, till the impossible has it;s grip on you.Any faith that must be supported by the evidence of the senses is not real faith.”

YES! deeply excited for the converted muslims by dreams or otherwise,God works despite the western religion's inability to grasp a miraculous God trapped in our doubt laden philosphies, or gain sake based organizations remain unable to lend themselves over for God to work in them due to external interests., in like manner.I pray that changes.why we went to ekklesia, it was the orgianal modle made by God.
The reason why many are still troubled, still seeking, still making little forward progress is because they haven't yet come to the end of themselves. We're still trying to give orders, and interfering with God's work within us. ”
A.W. Tozer

The Lord is showing us, he is able without our permision to do wonders, anytime he desires, I hope we get it....finally, love I know many are seeking, as was I .... it;s there have to get brave and do it.love to you.
“I want the presence of God Himself, or I don't want anything at all to do with religion... I want all that God has or I don't want any.”
A.W. Tozer

NW

Tuesday, October 28, 2014

STEAD FAST



Believe!!!!


“I will sing of Your power;
Yes, I will sing aloud of Your mercy in the morning;
For You have been my defense
And refuge in the day of my trouble."

Psalm 59:16



"As your days, so shall your strength be…"

Deuteronomy 33:25 
 
Un relenting in going! 
 
NW
 
         

Where is the power?

Laodiceans today focus on everything but the pure truth of the Living Word. They are comfortable with Sunday morning churchianity. They appear to the world as “cool” with contemporary and carnal worship. 
 
And they are clearly deceived as they practice their idolatrous embrace of all things tangible rather than obedience to intangible Spirit and Truth. Man and all his works are glorified in Laodicean fellowships. But glorying in God’s work on the Cross provides true fellowship (1 Cor 1:31 and Jer 9:23). Laodiceans are focused on improving self rather than dying to self.

We felt it's great to come back to Jesus central, ecclesia only jess is undivided and allows the spiritual wonders of his presence to come through his people.

  The ideas that led to the demise of the spirit gifts was created by the Greek philosophies when the choice was made to replace the revelatory with gnosis,  or human wisdom and system replaced the personal presence of God with man made ideas, theology is not bad it just depends where it ends up ? man centered, or is the knowledge deriv3ed from God or from the past teachings and methods of the platonic schools of thought. that was the case with clement and oreigin's writings which  merged their ideas with faith.

Saturday, October 25, 2014

Free!

LOST  IN THE DARKNESS/?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ-Rak9DjOY/  Hope?  ready , no need to wait,  hope it grabs you into life... No need to hide in the night,  you can  be  free. Praying for you! have not for gotten, never will. JESUS  sets free.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bld2gd0X78U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikRiJFuh4D0   takes away the pain, a world of shadows and silence ,  enjoy, get free, no let up  let go and take his hand , only way.

NW 


Monday, October 13, 2014

Question in the making

 Discussing the man made dicodomey and facts surrounding the origins of  truth in answering the man made traditions to what was the real order like? when it it was spirit controlled? before it got added onto, thanking author Jon zens for his discussion and input on going finding our way back to the ecclesia  with personal awareness and likeness to  1 Corinthians 1-4. 

As rule  for the most part when it comes to truth and tradition, the latter  will win out most of the time. 

A Help or a Hindrance to the Body of Christ?

by Jon Zens

In February 1996, several well-known Christian leaders hosted a "Clergy Conference" in Atlanta. These kinds of events, though undoubtedly well-intended, nevertheless serve to perpetuate what I believe to be an unhealthy division of God's people into two classes: the "clergy" and the "laity" - a distinction that is totally without biblical justification. We have reproduced below the letter that I sent to the sponsors of this Atlanta conference.
To: The sponsors of the Atlanta "Clergy Conference"
Re: Undermining the authority of God's Word by your promotion of the unscriptural "Clergy/Laity" distinction
In several weeks you will be having a "Clergy Conference" in Atlanta. I know you are well-meaning in your desire to support and affirm the "clergy". However, in assuming this category of the "ordained", you are overlooking a more basic and pressing question that must be addressed: "Does the New Testament teach that there is a separate caste of church leaders designated as 'clergy' who are over the 'laity' ?" It does not. I have prepared a paper on this question that is enclosed for you perusal.
By gathering "clergymen" together you are just assenting to the status quo and, in effect, putting band aids on it. What really needs to be done is to hold a conference where the New Testament's teaching on leadership is unfolded. If this were done, of course, then the traditional "clergy/laity" practice would have to be jettisoned in favor of the New Testament patterns.

Looking at the big picture, you are really doing harm to the very class of persons you are trying to help. By not challenging the "clergy" system, which has brought untold hurt to those within its pale, you end up giving pep-talks and encouragement to people who are functioning in an office Christ has nowhere revealed in His Word. You admit in Men of Action (Nov. 1995, p. 4), "Pastors are worn out, discouraged, and in need of affirmation. In fact, poll after poll reveals that most pastors are battling isolation, depression, and loneliness. They are so beaten up by the ministry . . ." Actually, the situation among the "clergy" is much worse than this brief statement. But should this be surprising when people are forced to fill a job description found nowhere in the New Testament? The most Christ-honoring and caring thing you could do is to tell the 70,000 men that come to Atlanta to stop being "clergy", because God's Word teaches nothing about "clergy".
I guess I have to honestly wonder: Do you leaders care at all that the New Testament is, in fact, against the "clergy" system?

Are you concerned that the "clergy" system, as James D. G. Dunn points out, does more to undermine the canonical authority of the New Testament than other heresies? You claim that God's Word must be our authority in all matters of faith and practice. But you undermine and nullify this confession by promoting a "clergy" system that is claiming the lives of men and their families every moment. By assuming that the "clergy" category is correct, your conference actually is perpetuating an unbiblical system that is to the detriment of those who attend. Does this concern you? Is your conscience pricked because you are promoting and cultivating that which the New Testament is against?
I do not think that I am beating in the air, or making a mountain out of a molehill. There is substance to my concerns. Do you care enough to give real answers to your constituents, or are you satisfied to go on encouraging a human tradition that has deeply wounded untold thousands of men?
Thank you for considering my thoughts and article.
Jon
My letter to the sponsors of the recent "Clergy Conference" in Atlanta reflects my deep concern over the biblically unjustified practice of dividing God's people into two classes - pulpiteers and pew-sitters. It is a pattern that certainly reflects the hierarchical patterns of the world, but which does not square with New Testament teaching.
This baseless "clergy/laity" distinction has become such an assumed given that it permeates nearly all of our evangelical literature. The excerpts provided at the end of this article * have been gleaned from magazines, books, catalogues and advertisements and are typical of the extent to which the "clergy/laity" division has become a part of our evangelical language and environment.

The following material has been adapted from the article I submitted with my letter to the conference sponsors. I have no desire to stir up unnecessary dissension, but I believe that if the Church is to attain her full potential as the visible body of Christ, she must divest herself of such unscriptural hierarchical structures and return to her intended "one-another" relationships and ministries.
Before we examine the historical and biblical evidence, consider the following three examples of the kind of teaching that has influenced this "clergy/laity" thinking:
On this office [of Pastor] and the discharge of it He has laid the whole weight of the order, rule, and edification of His Church.1
[The Pastor] is like the cerebellum, the center for communicating messages, coordinating functions, and conducting responses between the head and body . . .The pastor is not only the authoritative communicator of the truth from the Head to the body, but he is also the accurate communicator of the needs from the Body to the Head. 2
[Pastor Hamman] likened the total church to an army. The army has only one Commander-in-Chief, Jesus Christ. The local church is like a company with one company commander, the pastor, who gets his orders from the Commander-in-Chief. The company commander has lieutenants and sergeants under him for consultation and implementation, but the final responsibility for decisions is that of the company commander, and he must answer to the Commander-in-Chief . . . The Pastor has the power in a growing church . . . The pastor of a growing church may appear to outsiders as a dictator. But to the people of the church, his decisions are their decisions. 3
A recent ad in an evangelical magazine, had the heading, "Not Every Question Gets Answered On Sunday Morning". The truth is that probably no one's questions are answered because no inquiries are allowed. The pulpit monologue precludes dialogue.

The pulpit can only be occupied by certain people - the "clergy". The rest - the "laity" - sit in pews. In this dichotomy you have the essence of our religion - Catholic, Protestant, or otherwise - in a nutshell: the "clergy" are paid to give and the "laymen" pay in order to receive. This distinction permeates our religious vocabulary, and unfortunately captures the heart of our practice: we pay the "clergy" to do the necessary religious activities. It is wearying to hear refrains like these repeated in so many evangelical advertisements: "Finally, a commentary that both pastors and laymen can understand" . . . "this video is equally profitable for clergy and laity".
While the "clergy/laity" distinction is embedded and assumed in religious circles, it cannot be found in the New Testament. It reared up its ugly head in the third century, long after Christ's apostles died. We should be pointedly reminded of the utter deceitfulness of sin when we realize how deeply such an unscriptural and damaging concept has taken root in visible Christianity.
The New Testament teaches leadership among the people of God, but not in a way that leads to the "clergy/laity" conclusion. The root words from which we derive the English words "clergy" and "laity" are found in the New Testament, but our usage of "clergy/laity" is far removed from the New Testament concepts.
Clergy . . .
The English word "clergy" is related to the Greek word "cleros". It means "a lot or inheritance". For example, in 1 Peter 5:3 the elders are exhorted not to lord it over "the lots" (Greek: ton cleron), which refers to the entire flock of God's people. Nowhere in the New Testament is any form of "cleros" used to designate a separate class of "ordained" leaders. Instead, it refers to the "inheritance" (Greek: clerou) laid up for all the saints (Col. 1:12; Acts 26:18). The saints as a collective whole are conceived of in the New Testament as God's "inheritance". We have utterly perverted and turned upside-down the New Testament teaching by using the term "clergy: to refer to a special elite group of church leaders.
Laity . . .
This English word is related to the Greek word "laos", which means "people". The Greek word "laikos", which means "laity", is not found in the New Testament. All in the body of Christ, whether "saints, bishops, or deacons" (Phil. 1:1), are the "people" ("laos") of God. "People of God" is a title of honor bestowed upon all who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 6:16; 1 Pet. 2:9-10).
It was not until the third century that "clergy" was employed to designate a limited number of persons who functioned in the Christian assemblies. One of the worst outcomes of the "clergy" doctrine was that it communicated the notion that without the "clergy" present there simply was no church. Baptism, the Lord's Supper, and many other church practices, could not happen unless a "clergyman" was present. This idea persists to our day even in the workplace, as James D. G. Dunn notes, when "some of the early statements regarding industrial chaplaincies . . . seemed to imply that the church was not present in industry unless and until an ordained clergyman became involved on the factory floor". 4
Because the New Testament knows nothing of "clergy" the fact that a separate caste of the "ordained" permeated our vocabulary and practice illustrates rather forcefully that we do not yet take the New Testament very seriously. The "clergy" practice is a heresy that must be renounced. It strikes at the heart of the priesthood of all believers that Jesus purchased on the cross. It contradicts the shape Jesus' kingdom was to take when He said, "You are all brethren". Since it is a tradition of men, it nullifies the Word of God (Mark 7:13). Dunn sees the emergence of "clergy" as a very negative historical fact:
When Clement resorted once again to the distinction between "priest" and "laity" (1 Clem. 40:5), he was pointing down a road which would fundamentally compromise if not make a mere cipher of a very basic element in earliest Christianity's self-understanding . . . It is the apparent disregard for something quite so fundamental by subsequent Christian history that does more to undermine the canonical authority of the New Testament than most heresies . . . The major authority acknowledged by all Christians [the New Testament] has been effectively discounted and ignored. 5
Every Christian tradition has its insights and blind spots. But the "clergy" system is practiced across the board and is thus a universal blind spot. Seminaries and Bible Schools have multiplied to produce people for the "clergy" profession; ministerial conferences abound to supply support and encouragement that the "laity" cannot give; magazines are published to provide ministerial tips; pastoral search committees must be formed every time a minister moves on; clergy counseling must be provided for those who burnout and have nervous breakdowns; etc., etc. A whole intricate system is in place to perpetuate and preserve a role which the New Testament knows nothing about.
Like it or not, this "clergy" role ends up requiring a virtual omni-competence from those behind the pulpit. "Clergy" are paid to perform whatever is necessary to keep the religious machinery going, and the expectations are very high for those who wear the many hats this profession demands.
The deadly problem with this unscriptural system is that it eats up those within its pale. Burnout, moral lapse, divorce, and suicide are very high among the "clergy". Is it any wonder such repeated tragedies occur in light of what is expected of one person? Christ never intended anyone to fill such an ecclesiastical role. In light of Paul's remark in 1 Cor. 12:14 that "the body is not one part but many", we should be able to discern that the "clergy" position is neither healthy for those in it, nor is it beneficial for the body of Christ.
Scholars have debated the propriety of ordaining women as "clergy". However, a larger, more fundamental question has been passed over in the process: should anyone, male or female, be ordained as "clergy", since the Bible does not know of such an office? 6
The terms "Reformation" and "Renewal" are buzzwords in religious publications. Sadly, most periodicals of this sort approach the "clergy" system as sacrosanct, thereby reinforcing its stronghold in contemporary churches. I submit that to seek the renewal of the "laity" while perpetuating the "clergy" system is like mixing oil and water. Deep renewal (a healthy body) will come only as every member contributes his/her gifts and graces, which includes a leadership that practices the servant model revealed by Jesus in Mark 10:42-45. The "clergy" system stands as a monumental obstacle to genuine reformation and renewal. The church must jettison this system in order for the Word of God to have free course.
If those who function as "clergy" come to conviction that this role originates from unscriptural traditions and not from New Testament patterns, there are some practical steps that must be taken:
* Stop using "Reverend" and other religious titles in connection with your names (and encourage others to cease using language that reflects the "clergy/laity" distinction).
* Renounce your "clergy" status and see yourself as part of the "laos" of God who has manifestations of the Spirit, along with everyone else, for the good of the body (1 Cor. 12:7).
* Teach the body that your "clergy" roles and all the expectations that go with them are based on human traditions and not the gospel.
* Instruct the brethren that all aspects of caring for one another rest with the body, not on some spiritual elite.
* Begin a new methodology of truth-seeking and truth-speaking. Instead of the "clergy" spoon-feeding the "laity", study important issues together from the Word with a view to finding Christ's will and acting upon it.

* Adopt a teaching style where dialogue occurs and questions/insight from others are encouraged.
* As the body makes concrete changes in the way "church" is done the emphasis shifts from dependency on one person to edifying multiple participation.
* Your financial support as a clergy person is admittedly a difficult issue, but needs to be creatively evaluated. The traditional view that it is necessary to pay the "clergy" to preach, visit parishioners, do various administrative duties, etc., is without New Testament foundation. As long as "clergy" are paid to do religious duties why should the body develop its "one-another" ministries? Paul testified to the elders at Ephesus: "I coveted no one's silver, gold, or costly garments.

You yourselves know personally that these hands ministered to my own needs and those of others with me. In everything I have pointed out to you that, by working in this way diligently, we ought to support the weak, being mindful of Jesus' words, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive' (Acts 20: 33-35)".

As ministry becomes increasingly shared in the body, it takes the load off one person and frees the congregation to evaluate how its financial resources can be maximized for edification and meeting people's needs.

Obviously, the "clergy" system has become a mammoth institution. When you touch this nerve the whole body quivers. This long-standing system will not disappear overnight. Not every "clergy" person takes the New Testament seriously, but those who do need to lead the way by personal example to a paradigm shift which will better reflect the New Testament revelation of church life. People who withdraw from the traditional "clergy" model out of faithfulness to Christ will have a heavy price to pay. Nevertheless, the question still remains: Is our confession that the New Testament is sufficient for faith and practice a reality or a sham? If we are serious about following Christ, how can we remain party in perpetuating a "clergy" system which contradicts the very essence of the ecclesia our Savior purposed to build? When is enough, enough?


There are at least 58 commands in the New Testament unfolding our "one-another" responsibilities, and zero in the New Testament about "the pastor" being the cerebellum . . . the one company commander in the local church . . . the one who has the power . . . upon whose shoulders rests the whole weight of the order, rule, and edification of His church.

When are we going to wake up and realize that the evil one has tricked us into squandering resources for a "clergy" system that is unknown in and opposed to the New Testament, and thereby diverted us from spending ourselves for all the implications of loving one another, for which there is abundant New Testament warrant? Larry Crabb summarizes a crucial goal that believers should have in their life together:
Change takes place when truth is presented in relationships. Perhaps a relationship of deep regard and empathetic concern is the context for change, creating an atmosphere in which the truth of God can be heard non defensively and thus penetrate more deeply . . . To be healthy, a church must present truth in the context of encouraging relationships.

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The reality in local church life is that nothing hinders the fostering and cultivating of encouraging relationships more than the "clergy/laity" distinction. It stands as a huge road block to the very atmosphere we desperately need in our assemblies. The time has come for each of us to personally take the responsibility to live a life that refuses to knuckle under to the stifling "clergy/laity" tradition, and to begin fresh new paths of obedience where the body of Christ functions as vital parts contributing to the growth of the whole (Eph. 4:11-16).

We agree with the full restoration of the Nt Priesthood of the believers as being spirit led, and   the elimination institutionalism.

A healthy dicussion for healty Spiritual minds. 1 Corinthian -14 kj3 and young's literal,,,

 NW THANKS

Friday, October 3, 2014

FAITH-WARD

 Freeing one enslaved mind at a time,

Let’s look at the matter a bit more closely. Faith never means gullibility. The man who believes everything is as far from God as the man who refuses to believe anything. Faith engages the Person and promises of God and rests upon them with perfect assurance.

 Whatever has behind it the character and word of the living God is accepted by faith as the last and final truth from which there must never be any appeal. Faith never asks questions when it has been established that God has spoken. “Yea, let God he true, but every man a liar” (Rom. 3:4). Thus faith honors God by counting Him righteous and accepts His testimony against the very evidence of its own senses. That is faith, and of such we can never have too much.

Free me from the chains of Satan



Oh Jesus I am lost

I am confused and feel like a prisoner

Caught in a web I cannot escape from

I trust You Jesus to come to my aid

And free me from the chains of Satan and his demons



Help me for I am lost

I need Your love to give me the strength

To believe in You and trust in You

So that I can be saved from this evil and be

Shown the light so I can find peace, love and happiness

At last.

AMEN.

NEXT:  And not only have we made up rules, but we've attributed them to Jesus. And not only have we made up rules and attributed them to Jesus, but we've often elevated our made-up rules above the things Jesus actually did ask us to do. Whoa. I, personally, have internalized so many Churchian rules and concepts that I feel like I need a 12-Step Program to recover from Churchianity and become the Christian that Jesus wants me to be.

 The whole of the faith is  relationship  a life  of faith 1 Corinth 1-4,  enjoy the venture in  knowing him...

fs



Thursday, October 2, 2014

Light over darkness.

All of us have become like one who is unclean,and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; Isaiah 64:6 (NIV)
one race all have sinned, no matter what color we are or where we come from is all distraction to all mankind we need Christ in order to stop the madness of greed, power, and mass murder, abuse the dark occult and it;s distorted ideas, get free , do not have to do perverted things to live  a life that means something.


The Lord tells them to “remember how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent.” Sardis is close to Laodicea in that they have received and heard the truth and have a name that says they are alive, but they are dead. Above all, they need to rekindle that living relationship with the Lord that they had when they first got saved. I experienced this and I know that many of you have also. The difference between death and life is the difference between “head knowledge” and “heart knowledge and relationship”. 

notice what I said about epignosis and gnosis they are nothe same often confused in shallow understanding of relational  presence- verses starring in the sky and pretending to know. He touches on the two word, differncess in a living way...


 We study about the cross but don’t experience it. We study about dying to self, but it doesn’t happen. We study about sanctification and think we are, but we aren’t.  Somebody missing???

The world intrudes on our lives and defiles us as we get caught up in day to day humdrum survival. Going to church is just one of the motions we go through. We have a name, a reputation that we are alive, but we are dead inside. I need to experience Jesus myself, “body life” and a loving community, that;s what narrowway is all about. the congrationare people not buildingsand unholy unions with  it;s forms or  the compromise.

For those who think God is all love, let’s review what He does with the five churches he isn’t too happy with:

1. Ephesus – “Repent or He takes away their lampstand.” (Rev. 2:5)

2. Pergamos – “Repent or He will come and fight against them with the sword of my mouth.” (Rev. 2:16)

3. Thyatira – “Repent … or I will cast you into tribulation and kill your children” (Rev. 2:22-23)

4. Sardis – “Repent or I will come upon you as a thief…” (Rev. 3:3)

5. Laodicea – “Repent or I will vomit you out of my mouth.” (Rev 3:16)  lot of that going on isn;t it? loads of it, luke warm no depth compromised.
 
14For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, 17that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height-- 19to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
20Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, 21to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever.” (Eph. 2:14-20
 
Satan is the one who hates and destroys. God is the one who loves and nurtures His people. JESUS SAVES.

 

Wisdom eat well

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/sugar/sugar-the-sweet-thief-of-life/

A litte truth on the white rat posion we eat.

Figtht suger diabiates, healing isd for free, stop eating the posion, geting the monkey of your back!

NW

Monday, September 29, 2014

Things I pray through,..

“Everyone loves bribes and follows after rewards. They do not defend the fatherless, Nor does the cause of the widow come before them.” Isaiah 2:23

   Free to walk with Christ here no connections to the  above,,,JESUS Only


“For the leaders of this people cause them to err; And those who are led by them are destroyed.” Isaiah 9:16


“I will gather those who sorrow over the appointed assembly, who are among you, to whom it’s reproach is a burden. Behold, at that time I will deal with all who afflict you; I will save the lame, And gather those who were driven out; I will appoint them for praise and fame in every land where they were put to shame.” Zephaniah 3:18,19

Jesus said to the people who believed in Him, “You are truly My disciples if you remain faithful to My teachings. 32 And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

Nobody became popular by telling the truth. History has recorded what people (esp religious people) did to the prophets of the past. Everything that could possibly point to Jesus's imminent return for His Bride is now pointing. The question is possed, the  evidence sure points  to the much needed life need to escape the incorporated religion. 1 Corinth 1-4,, mind set we need. 



http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Family/Teens/teenager.htm I think he says it very well here,pretty  dramatic sight. thanks


BEFORE IT GOT COMPLICATED.

OUR REACH,

 Before it got tunned down or explained away..., Verse 6 Luke9 And going out, they passed through the villages   having annouced the gospel, and healing every where. Lots of places, and people.

Jesus gave them and us  power,,,,, 1 Corinth 4 noticed the power of God worked in them, personal,  awareness.

  all servants,,, NW

Into Christ and out of the world.




Tozer said the following in the artice…


The truly spiritual man is indeed something of an oddity. He lives not for himself but to promote the interests of another. He seeks to persuade people to give all to his Lord and asks no portion or share for himself.
 
He delights not to be honored but to see his Savior glorified in the eyes of men.
 
His joy is to see his Lord promoted and himself neglected. He finds few who care to talk about that which is the supreme object of his interest, so he is often silent and preoccupied in the midst of noisy religious shoptalk.
 
For this he earns the reputation of being dull and overserious, so he is avoided and the gulf between him and society widens. He searches for friends upon whose garments he can detect the smell of myrrh and aloes and cassia out of the ivory palaces, and finding few or none, he, like Mary of old, keeps these things in his heart.
 
 
It is this very loneliness that throws him back upon God. "When my father and my mother forsake me, then the Lord will take me up."
 
His inability to find human companionship drives him to seek in God what he can find nowhere else. He learns in inner solitude what he could not have learned in the crowd - that Christ is All in All.
 
 The sea which  narrowway sails on 1 Corinth1-4,
 
 Rich beyoud beleif , here ?nothing can compare this bliss within words.
 
amen Tozar, A world I love with out question.