The list of 2,000 names have long since been lost, however, it has been reported by researchers who read the list before they disappeared that Weishaupt had recruited many Lutherans and Calvinists to his Satanic order. ((magic money and power)) !!!
Many were Lutherans and Calvinists who were confident that once saved always saved. There is no record that John Calvin himself joined secret societies but there is evidence that he accepted money from the Rosicrucians to fund his Protestant efforts in Switzerland. Accepting contributions from secret societies doesn't constitute apostasy, but it certainly opens the doors of Rosicrucian lodges to the undiscerning followers of Calvin. (subtle is the serpent) ???
secret books members Sadly to real when I SAW THE BOOK FOR SALE FOR $750,000 POSTED ON rare ole books contained the info was present in the names signed section,, were mad view able I saw listed by the electronic touch you could view a few pages of the members names which were fully there,,, it was stunning to see as deeply troubling to me ,,,,, in my mind it had confirmed my already present unction of the levels of corruption that took place ,that book was off line not long there after I wondered why some one let that out ??? to expose the the depths of that material ...why they let that out ,
cheers up truth exists God sees ,,, us all, we repent move on the greeter truth day by day peter said how many time do I for give my brother?? Jesus said 70X 7 a day wow, the leg lists sucking the facts down hard,,, no one to burn!! oh heavens no the jerks did so to many!!!! ..
SAD we have no idea what grace is often non , nor truth , all to often each of us falters hourly and daily how the fight is subject the ignorant judgments than and some for now!!! .... till we die and made anew, phsyically where men women are new creatures, no kids, cars or worries ,, here is war fare day by day ,,, ever heard of shape memory our body remembers tissues contain memory sensation etc , the means to subdue must be spirit led !! not physical war rages in dreams, as do the spirit manifestations people get saved by dreams., God is spirit , he's not a geek philosopher , or paper but a real being Paul warns of the magic word guys , ,,
Next magic of fancy words terms and forms!! we got one here major problem as people try to radicalize the holy spirit thru the geek logicians , good luck !
A problem with allegorization is that allows the allegorizer to use his or her own imaginations to justify just about anything. The Bible warns about this:
16 Thus says the Lord of hosts:
“Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you.
They make you worthless;
They speak a vision of their own heart,
Not from the mouth of the Lord. (Jeremiah 23:16)
26 How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Indeed they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart (Jeremiah 23:26).
God is not pleased with unison that were used..... Meanwhile, when King James VI arrived in London in 1603 and was crowned King James I, this Christian kingdom transferred its allegiance from the Church-Circa of England to the Knights Templar. Again, Christ was not pleased with the Protestants.
On the continent of Europe, Rosicrucians who were bitter enemies of the Templars, crossed the English Channel to secretly overthrow the Stuarts. As they arrived by boat to Southern England they, too, lodged in inns run by Protestant Masonic guilds. Soon these lodges were turned into Rosicrucian secret societies and Rosicrucian Masonry was born, and Christ was not pleased with the Protestants. Forty years later Templar Masonry and Rosicrucian Masonry were at war with each other in a British civil war over absolute rule. The Templars wanted the Stuarts to remain sovereign while the Rosicrucians wanted a constitutional monarchy that was not controlled by the Knights Templar.
Allegorizers seem to most often value their opinions than the mouth (or Word) of God.
breaking the grip of infancy, kj3 says Isiah 28;9 To whom shall he teach knowledge ? to whom shall he explain the massages ? those weaned from milk, those moving from breasts ..
In 1688 when the glorious revolution dethroned the Stuarts and established a constitutional monarchy, Templar and Rosicrucian Masonry were both known as Freemasonry for their respective roles played in winning freedom for the British subjects. The Stuarts who were controlled by Templar Freemasonry remained in England which threatened a new Hanoverian Dynasty which dynastic family was controlled by Rosicrucian Freemasonry.
In 1717 the problem was resolved when the Stuarts were exiled to Paris, France and with them went their Templar Freemasonry.
In 1725 the Templars organized their first continental lodge with Scottish flavor. In 1750 when the Philadelphia church period began Templar Freemasonry became Scottish Rite Freemasonry.
When secret societies attached themselves to the Reformation and turned it into the Protestant Reformation Christ was not pleased with this dichotomy. In fact, the Sardis church period was reprimanded by our Saviour with a strictness surpassed only in the letter to the lukewarm Laodicean church period. Christ's condemnation of the Sardis church is found in Revelation 3:1-2 — "I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God."
Luther refereed the body as gelemine the word church was orgined under the king for state control through it;s pagan past Circe or circa carthers used it . amazing esoteric unions were mixed rosicrusions forms were a business model use to control the masses through instituionlism ... Christ used ht ecclesial merely people as his temple , all were able to contribute etc required to do so the young s literel the kj3 the neb does nice job on the depthness of the spirit led sections in the new testament for the basic reader over the platonic systematized religions of man's creation... to merely father as the elder was down so by the ones most of love spirit led not greek or paganized logicians thus any could share as the spirit led them to do so , desir eot sense inside the faith based unction over the Gnostic philosophies the elders were not overlords sis spiritual discernment was allowed to operate, during the gatherings,,,, it was not a Greek lecture hall, they taught so did others of their lives the revelation of God who is spirit ... enjoy the in depth sections stuff many have long since desired but must exercise their own thinking that they to are spirit led!!! and cradle free ,, to know so as well each has things to give ... you thus become the living Epistle of Christ not in paper but life , we advance in the faith , faith is doing what is impossible for us to do,,, what is possible for us bring no glory to God just our own flesh we are still in great want of faith !! after salvation???at times ....
Allegorizing May Have First Developed in Alexandria And Was Held By Followers of Simon Magus and Valentinus
Gnostic and pre-gnostic leaders took a different approach to biblical interpretation in the first and second centuries. They tended to accept allegory over what the Bible actually taught.
This practice may have first developed in Alexandria, Egypt. Here is some of what Eusebius said Philo (c. first century) taught about those who made some profession of Christ in Alexandria (any bolding mine):
3. In the work to which he gave the title, On a Contemplative Life or on Suppliants, after affirming in the first place that he will add to those things which he is about to relate nothing contrary to truth or of his own invention, he says that these men were called Therapeutæ and the women that were with them Therapeutrides. He then adds the reasons for such a name, explaining it from the fact that they applied remedies and healed the souls of those who came to them, by relieving them like physicians, of evil passions, or from the fact that they served and worshiped the Deity in purity and sincerity.So Eusebius claims that Philo (c. 1st century) reported that those in Alexandria were ascetic, had mysteries, seem to have been gnostics (ones who claimed to have special knowledge/wisdom was essential for salvation), had some promotion of celibacy, allegorized scripture, and had a bishop–and Eusebius seems to claim that they are part of the Catholic Church (see vs. 17 above)–even though the Roman Church did not have celibacy rules at that time (please see the article Was Celibacy Required for Early Bishops or Presbyters?). This seems to have been where a major departure from the true faith occurred.
4. Whether Philo himself gave them this name, employing an epithet well suited to their mode of life, or whether the first of them really called themselves so in the beginning, since the name of Christians was not yet everywhere known, we need not discuss here…
7. Philo bears witness to facts very much like those here described and then adds the following account: “Everywhere in the world is this race found. For it was fitting that both Greek and Barbarian should share in what is perfectly good. But the race particularly abounds in Egypt, in each of its so-called nomes, and especially about Alexandria…
9. And then a little further on, after describing the kind of houses which they had, he speaks as follows concerning their churches, which were scattered about here and there: “In each house there is a sacred apartment which is called a sanctuary and monastery, where, quite alone, they perform the mysteries of the religious life. They bring nothing into it, neither drink nor food, nor any of the other things which contribute to the necessities of the body, but only the laws, and the inspired oracles of the prophets, and hymns and such other things as augment and make perfect their knowledge and piety.”
10. And after some other matters he says:
“The whole interval, from morning to evening, is for them a time of exercise. For they read the holy Scriptures, and explain the philosophy of their fathers in an allegorical manner, regarding the written words as symbols of hidden truth which is communicated in obscure figures.
11. They have also writings of ancient men, who were the founders of their sect, and who left many monuments of the allegorical method. These they use as models, and imitate their principles”…
15…Philo’s words are as follows:
16. “Having laid down temperance as a sort of foundation in the soul, they build upon it the other virtues. None of them may take food or drink before sunset, since they regard philosophizing as a work worthy of the light, but attention to the wants of the body as proper only in the darkness, and therefore assign the day to the former, but to the latter a small portion of the night.
17. But some, in whom a great desire for knowledge dwells, forget to take food for three days; and some are so delighted and feast so luxuriously upon wisdom, which furnishes doctrines richly and without stint, that they abstain even twice as long as this, and are accustomed, after six days, scarcely to take necessary food.” These statements of Philo we regard as referring clearly and indisputably to those of our communion.
19. For they say that there were women also with those of whom we are speaking, and that the most of them were aged virgins who had preserved their chastity…by their own choice, through zeal and a desire for wisdom…
20. Then after a little he adds still more emphatically: “They expound the Sacred Scriptures figuratively by means of allegories. For the whole law seems to these men to resemble a living organism, of which the spoken words constitute the body, while the hidden sense stored up within the words constitutes the soul. This hidden meaning has first been particularly studied by this sect, which sees, revealed as in a mirror of names, the surpassing beauties of the thoughts”…
23. In addition to this Philo describes the order of dignities which exists among those who carry on the services of the church, mentioning the diaconate, and the office of bishop, which takes the precedence over all the others (Eusebius. Church History, Book II, Chapter XVII. Translated by Arthur Cushman McGiffert. Excerpted from Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Series Two, Volume 1. Edited by Philip Schaff and Henry Wace. American Edition, 1890. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K. Knight).
Hippolytus, who also appeared to be a Roman supporter, in the early third century, wrote this about the heretic Simon Magus:
Now Simon, both foolishly and knavishly paraphrasing the law of Moses, makes his statements (Hippolytus. Refutation of All Heresies, Book VI, Chapter IV. Translated by J. H. Machmahon. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 5. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1886. Online Edition Copyright © 2005 by K. Knight).Simon Magus came on the scene about the same time Philo wrote about the Alexandrians.
Simon then, after inventing these (tenets), not only by evil devices interpreted the writings of Moses in whatever way he wished, but even the (works) of the poets. For also he fastens an allegorical meaning on (the story of) the wooden horse and Helen with the torch, and on very many other (accounts), which he transfers to what relates to himself and to Intelligence, and (thus) furnishes a fictitious explanation of them. (ibid Chapter XIV).
Alexandria was also the original home of the heretic Valentinus (who later went to Rome), and it seems like some of the leaders in Alexandria adopted some of his traits. The historian HOJ Brown noted:
Alexandria was the home of the celebrated gnostic Valentinus. Valentinus adopted Philo’s method of allegorical interpretation…For a time, Valentinus and his followers existed with the orthodox Christians of Alexandria. (Brown HOJ. Heresies: Heresy and Orthodoxy in the History of the Church. Hendrickson Publishers, Peabody (MA), 1988, p. 86).Valentinus, even though condemned by Polycarp of Smyrna, when Polycarp visited Rome, ca. 155, was also tolerated by, and existed in, the Roman Church until at the 170s A.D. when he was finally put out after he had greatly influenced the church there.
Speaking of Polycarp, in his famous Letter to the Philippians he uses essentially a literal, not allegorical approach to understanding scripture. The simple truth is that the actual early (prior to the third century) leaders of the church (outside of Alexandria), that the Roman Catholics consider non-heretical, did not try to promote an allegorical method of understanding scripture. But the heretics did.
Demetrius is in the list of successors for the Orthodox Church of Alexandria from 188-231. During that time, Demetrius encouraged the heretic Clement of Alexander.
Yet Clement mixed gnosticism with his form of Christianity:
Unlike Irenaeus who detested it, Clement refers to secret tradition, and his affinities to gnosticism seems to go beyond mere borrowing of gnostic terms. (Brown HOJ. Heresies: Heresy and Orthodoxy in the History of the Church. Hendrickson Publishers, Peabody (MA), 1988, p. 87).In other words, many scholars understand that Clement of Alexandria, who is often listed as a major leader in Alexandria held some gnostic views.
Clement, most famous of the Alexandrian college faculty and a teacher of Origen, boasted that he would not teach Christianity unless it were mixed with pagan philosophy (Wilkinson BG. Truth Triumphant, ca. 1890. Reprint: Teach Services, Brushton (NY) 1994, p. 47).
Here is some of what Clement wrote hinting that Greek philosophy was given to call Greeks:
Our book will not shrink from making use of what is best in philosophy and other preparatory instruction…
Accordingly, before the advent of the Lord, philosophy was necessary to the Greeks for righteousness. And now it becomes conducive to piety; being a kind of preparatory training to those who attain to faith through demonstration. “For your foot,” it is said, “will not stumble, if you refer what is good, whether belonging to the Greeks or to us, to Providence.” For God is the cause of all good things; but of some primarily, as of the Old and the New Testament; and of others by consequence, as philosophy. Perchance, too, philosophy was given to the Greeks directly and primarily, till the Lord should call the Greeks. For this was a schoolmaster to bring “the Hellenic mind,” as the law, the Hebrews, “to Christ.” Philosophy, therefore, was a preparation, paving the way for him who is perfected in Christ…
The Greek preparatory culture, therefore, with philosophy itself, is shown to have come down from God to men…It should be noted that Clement claimed that he only kept the true portions of philosophy of the Greek and not untrue portions–but that is essentially what all Gnostics claimed.
And our much-knowing gnostic can distinguish sophistry from philosophy, the art of decoration from gymnastics, cookery from physic, and rhetoric from dialectics, and the other sects which are according to the barbarian philosophy, from the truth itself. And how necessary is it for him who desires to be partaker of the power of God, to treat of intellectual subjects by philosophising! And how serviceable is it to distinguish expressions which are ambiguous, and which in the Testaments are used synonymously! (Clement of Alexander. The Stromata, Book I, Chapters 1,5,7,9)
Scripture has called the Greeks pilferers of the Barbarian philosophy…Accordingly, the Barbarian philosophy, which we follow, is in reality perfect and true…
As, then, philosophy has been brought into evil repute by pride and self-conceit, so also gnosis by false gnosis called by the same name (Clement of Alexander. The Stromata, Book II, Chapters 1,2,11)
And Clement influenced Origen.
It may be of interest to note that in the second century, allegory was condemned by the Roman supporting Irenaeus (who is a Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox saint):
11…But if any one, “doting about questions,” do imagine that what the apostles have declared about God should be allegorized, let him consider my previous statements, in which I set forth one God as the Founder and Maker of all things, and destroyed and laid bare their allegations; and he shall find them agreeable to the doctrine of the apostles, and so to maintain what they used to teach (Irenaeus. Adversus haereses, Book III, Chapter 12, Verse 11. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K. Knight).
It was also opposed by Nepos of Arsinoe in the third century. Here is what The Catholic Encyclopedia reported:
An Egyptian bishop, Nepos, taught the Chiliastic error that there would be a reign of Christ upon earth for a thousand years, a period of corporal delights; he founded this doctrine upon the Apocalypse in a book entitled “Refutation of the Allegorizers” (Chapman, John. “Dionysius of Alexandria.” The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 5. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1909. 14 Aug. 2008 <http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05011a.htm>.)Thus, a treatise against the allegorists was written when it became apparent that allegorists were gaining influence.
The allegorists were also opposed by Lucian of Antioch in the third century:
Lucian of Antioch…The opposition to the allegorizing tendencies of the Alexandrines centred in him. He rejected this system entirely and propounded a system of literal interpretation…(Healy P.J. Transcribed by Joseph P. Thomas. Lucian of Antioch. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume IX. Published 1910. New York: Robert Appleton Company. Nihil Obstat, October 1, 1910. Remy Lafort, Censor. Imprimatur. +John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York).
Dr. Williston Walker thus describes:Your question !!! who were they ....
With Antioch of this period is to be associated the foundation of a school of theology by Lucian, of whom little is known of biographical detail, save that he was a presbyter, held aloof from the party in Antioch which opposed and overcame Paul of Samosata, taught there from c. 275 to 303, and died a martyr’s death in 312…. Like Origen, he busied himself with textual and exegetical labors on the Scriptures, but had little liking for the allegorizing methods of the great Alexandrian. A simpler, more grammatical and historical method of treatment both of text and doctrine characterized his teaching (as quoted in Wilkinson BG. Truth Triumphant, ca. 1890. Reprint: Teach Services, Brushton (NY) 1994).
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the spirits led verses the platonic gnostIc state run religions that came by the third century...!!
VARIOUS GROUPS
The Cevennes: a craggy, mountainous region on the Languedoc side of the Rhone valley (the other side isProvence.) It saw the last stand of the French Protestants against Louis the 14th’s imposition of Catholicism. The king revoked the Edit de Nantes in 1685: Protestants had to convert or leave the kingdom. Most converted, many left - migrating to the “Refuge” (mainly Geneva, Amsterdam, London, and some German principalities.) An irreducible handful, known as the Camisards, resisted to the end. it would be like wise withe penn and fox to..., spirit led is non Gnostic way 1 Corinthians 1-4 and 2 Corinthians 3 give you much deeper glimpse in your mind of what that is the kj3 or young's literal, I prefer non slanted reads I do use th neb it;s potent view as the verb tenses it;s much more close than others that flalent term to reduce the impact of tense to neutering terms, into mere gnosis , epigenosis s is spirit given discernment not plato or aristrotalism based natural knowledge which as epigenosis, we use a weak word that indicates a mere knowledge based on obscurity , unclear, good guess ta-mating term the mind been trained to grasp the more weak versions,,guess ideas you suggested is common, practice now , the mere word knowledge, in the west has little depth obscure in most cases , due to the lack language education the new norm where less ability is considered wise... no awareness is the new discernment awful....
The Camisards influence “spread to Britain in the early years of the eighteenth century and, via Annie Lee’s Shakers, toAmerica.”7 Here, inspired Protestantism met the African slaves’ culture and produced what came to be called Gospel singing and Negro Spirituals, with all that that syncretism has given back to the world of music, voice and singing.
African- Americans actually reversed the direction from spiritual singing back to the body, and in a sense rebelled against the spiritualism of Protestantism by switching over in the 50s and 60s to the word “soul”. The notion of soul had all but disappeared in its deeper cultural meanings from most Christian movements (including Catholicism, where it had become an edulcorated euphemism for spirit.) What had come to rule was associated with “The Spirit” as the sublime Master of the body.
the narrative was defined in obscure unions :The list of 2,000 names have long since been lost, however, it has been reported by researchers who read the list before they disappeared that Weishaupt had recruited many Lutherans and Calvinists to his Satanic order
Now the hidden deeds of the Sardis church period were so concealed that to this day they are not recorded in either secular or Protestant history.
What is recorded in Protestant history is defamation of the Catholic Church as the greatest curse since the introduction of Christianity and adulation of the Protestant Reformation as its greatest blessing. Yet Christ had no good thing to say about the Protestant church period while he had six commendations for the Catholic Church period.
What Christ's seven eyes jealously observed during this period of church history was simply this: when the Catholic Church cast out the secret societies by Inquisition, the Sardis Reformation church embraced those same secret societies.
Both exoteric and esoteric history of this church period record that instead of completing its divine work of reformation, Reformers separated from the Catholic Church and with financial aid from secret societies and with political and military backing from European kings they took up military arms against the church.
Hence, Sardis reformers became the Protestant Reformation church, it was not yet an ecclesia where people were the temple not t he hut they met in!!!!! and Christ was not pleased. When the Protestant Reformation aligned itself with the adversary's secret societies to war against the Catholic Church, Christ's jealousy demanded that the same punishment afflicted on the secret societies during the Inquisitions of the 13th and 14th century be visited on the Protestant Church.
Hence the Jesuits of the 16th and 17th century renewed the Inquisitions, this time against the Protestants. If Christ had not judged the Protestants for abandoning reformation in exchange for political protest, he would owe the Ephesian church period an apology for sending them into 300 years of martyrdom for abandoning evangelism in exchange for defending the faith. As an ecclesia christian where we se the body as one undived and not sold out nor to any secret groups!!! ,,,,,
I remain free of them with others both by way of love and truth..... but press on the high calling of spirit led faith the struggles again the flesh are life long the law laden heresy still seeks to bind people back the ole ways of flesh performance as means of countering the inward passions, only through the spirit led can we do so as we see no value as compared to the glory of God in us, if we are listen for him, and even be consistent to any degree , real question what is and where is the real faith that can discern well enough to know other than parrot what another has told them to know? The platonic thinking so far in tack the epigenosis is largely missing, .... if it was active many seek time alone with God , that perhaps is not present , since the mad rush for materialism is so over whelming, (a euphoria) it has become it;s own hectate's as master ..
enchantment ruling the hearts amassing!!! vast amounts of junk! the sustaining thing that is a living awareness ..? we are are prone to it any time, many yearn for but have kept them selves away from the easy path way, faith is all but easy , hard brutal compared to using to using human intermediaries???? to do your thinking for you,,,, in the place of faith ,,, to do what they need to do for them selves ,, is what that means ...thanks amazing ,, what was it like before it got muddied up before ego, .....??? sold out...
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